Loki Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Hiya All Out of curiosity I understand some 'afficianados' may use a muzzlebrake over a moderator - now whilst I appreciate that a moderator will assist in reducing the effect on hearing and to some extent recoil, what is the consensus on muzzlesbrakes given they should reduce perceived recoil and perhaps heard sound? Who uses a muzzlebrake? why? experience of it? which would you recommend and from where? I recall a long standing PW Member recently posting on some from a particular company but these seemed more akin to the Browning something or other with a 'sweetspot' - cant seem to remember what they called it but please remind me...... Just looking at alternatives to using a moderator even if it is a 'reflex/over-barrel' type - for a Steyer-Mannlicher in .300WM (to retain options for those countries that are a bit fidgety over moderators) - I know these are difficult to thread even with access to a good machine shop......... Cheers L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRS Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 i use a muzzle break on my .243 and it definitely reduces felt recoil and the most important thing is it reduces muzzle flip which also adds to accuracy being improved they are fitted using a torque wrench and "sit down tight" at about 70lbs per sq inch i will post some pics later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRS Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 as promised some pics of my muzzle break the first shows where it is vented (marked by arrows http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss236/j...09/101_0364.jpg next is a side shot of vents http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss236/j...09/101_0365.jpg third shows how it sits overall on the rifle http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss236/j.../101_0366-1.jpg hope this has been some use the material i used for this muzzle break is 316 stainless but they can be made from carbon steel en8 - en19 and can be blackend the exit hole is 6.5mm and the calliber is .243 , overall legnth is 4 inches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 (edited) Yep, they work. See here: http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/ind...st&p=909197 EDIT: From here: http://www.bgaltd.co.uk/30151.html Type D, under a score Edited January 31, 2010 by Mungler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRS Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 this is the same animal in black and you can see how the recoil is reduced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytie Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 After shooting in the next range lane to a chap with a 30-06 fitted with a muzzle break , I would say I prefer people to use moderators. But that will only be untill I get my hearing back though It was a hell of a crack, even wearing electronic ear defenders I all seriousness though, they do help with recoil and other things that snipers and target shooters need to worry about, but not with noise attenuation. ft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 It is important to get them right, and ammo and twist rate is important but they do help with shooting. Problem is the noise to the sides is terrible and the ground usually moves in many cases...personally I hate being anywhere near the things...stick with a moderator if possible!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 It is important to get them right, and ammo and twist rate is important but they do help with shooting. Problem is the noise to the sides is terrible and the ground usually moves in many cases...personally I hate being anywhere near the things...stick with a moderator if possible!! I'd go along with that, I shot a McQueens Sniper competition at Bisley last year and the guy on the firing point next to me had a muzzle brake fitted on his 7.62. The sideways blast from that was almost painful and certainly made you jump everytime he fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3jackwhite3 Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 thats one of the reasons i dont go down the range anymore is because of the muzzle brakes they ring you ears even with defenders on when your in the bunker next to them, almost everyone with a .308 has got one and when i was in the bunker next to someone with a .338 my ammo and magazines on the floor around me where jumping off the floor it was that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRS Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 as far as noise consideration to neighbours they are deffinitely antisocial on a firing range , but i dont use my rifles on a range so noise is not a problem but they do work well and improve accuracy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 thats one of the reasons i dont go down the range anymore is because of the muzzle brakes they ring you ears even with defenders on when your in the bunker next to them, almost everyone with a .308 has got one and when i was in the bunker next to someone with a .338 my ammo and magazines on the floor around me where jumping off the floor it was that bad. last time i was at Bisley i had the same - bloody antisocial for other shooters - i can't tell you how many shots i fluffed 'cos the bloke next to me fired at the same time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytie Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 as far as noise consideration to neighbours they are deffinitely antisocial on a firing range , but i dont use my rifles on a range so noise is not a problem but they do work well and improve accuracy Yes they do work well on large calibre rifles. If you look at most of the big sniper rifles, they have them fitted. The snipers would not put them on their rifles for fun They only carry the weight that is necessary, which speaks for its self really. Damned anti-social in company though. ft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 as far as noise consideration to neighbours they are deffinitely antisocial on a firing range , but i dont use my rifles on a range so noise is not a problem but they do work well and improve accuracy Yup, as above..............except if you fire one next to me I will punch you in the puss if you fire when I am at the firing point, only to let you know what it feels like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRS Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 Yup, as above..............except if you fire one next to me I will punch you in the puss if you fire when I am at the firing point, only to let you know what it feels like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moses Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 I had a brake made for my .270 last year. As has already been said, you probably won't make many friends but, they are very good for taking the edge off recoil. I wanted mine for a stalking trip to Ireland and I was really pleased with it, you can see your shots strike and a good bit less weight than a mod when out on the hill. <embed width="600" height="361" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowFullscreen="true" allowNetworking="all" wmode="transparent" src="http://static.photobucket.com/player.swf?file=http://vid188.photobucket.com/albums/z94/moses5635/VID00002-20090919-0850.flv"> http://s188.photobucket.com/albums/z94/mos...090919-0850.flv After a successful hunt; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M ROBSON Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 (edited) I have a muzzel break on my Browning .270. It is lighter and less bulky than a moderator. It reduces muzzel flip, I can see the strike through my Meopta 7x50. There is less felt recoil, handy with a .270!!! and it also reduces downrange noise at the target, the blast is diverted to the side of you. You will only fire it once whilst forgetting to put your ear defenders on! It's easy during the stalk to wear them on your head and forget to cover your ears up during all the excitement. If your guiding someone else into the shot it's even worse!!!! Cheers, Mark. Edited February 2, 2010 by M ROBSON Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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