Guest Callum. Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 How many ft/lb do you think 570-580 ft per second is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George1990 Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Depends on the weight and the ballistic coefficient of the bullet/pellet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo2005 Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 need the pellet weight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Callum. Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 I don't know... it just said Ft/second 570-580 and other guns say foot / lb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSS Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Where have you found that? is it .22 or .177? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Callum. Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 It's a .177 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 where and on what did it say this? Be specific!!!! what you've stated is the muzzle velocity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Callum. Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Well it was on a website called Antics Online and i don't know anything else it doesn't say! Its only a cheap gun and i don't want to buy a weak thing that won't kill quarry and leave it with a wound! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSS Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 580 fps seems slow for a .177, I thought they were nearer 700 if they were legal limit. I've never been a fan of .177 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Callum. Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Hmm Ok. This is why I don't like air rifles much cost so much for a decent one and then there is all this technical stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 well, a legal 177 air rifle will chuck an average pellet out at about 900ish ft per second, thats about 11ft/lb. 570 ft/sec is slower than a 22. hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Callum. Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Ahh ok. Thanks i'll keep looking then I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyblanco Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Just under 800fps is legal limit for a .177 8.4gr pellet like air arms field/jsb etc. just under 600fps is legal for a 16gr .22 IIRC Sub 600fps .177 is near pistol energy and only suitable for close range rats, there are plenty of springers you can buy for sub £100 second hand that will be powerful enough to kill-its better than buying a brand new piece of poo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Callum. Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Ok cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickmep Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 my rapid is doing 712 fps using bisley magnums at 10.6 grain which gives a ft/lbs of 11.94. using a combro mk4. the ft/lbs goes down if using lighter pellets like jsb's but i dont have a fps reading for those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HW682 Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Also note that it is ftlb or ft-lb or even ft.lb but not ft / lb which would be feet per pound and that is not a unit of energy. HW682 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Callum. Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Sorry einstein i'll make sure I correct it in future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Callum. Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Thankyou Mick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HW682 Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 I think you mean Einstein? (with a capital E) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmboy99 Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 (edited) i think 900fps is more like 15 ft/lb usually unless its a really light pellet. But yeah it sounds like a weak gun for a .177 ive got a basically new weihrauch 77k putting out close to legal limit if youre interested give us a shout. ive just brought a hw97kt so the 77k is redundent although it is basically brand new itself. cheers tom Edited February 14, 2010 by farmboy99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
covlocks Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 Go on to the Air Arms site and there a some good spreadsheets for calculating muzzle velocities, power v pellet weights etc. If I can find them on my ,puter, i'll post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
covlocks Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 I have found a quick way of doing the calc using a spread sheet. =((pellet weight in grains/(7000*32.174))*muzzle velocity^2)/2 answer is in Ft/Lbs. Put that into a spreadsheet and you have a good guide. I would have posted the small excel file, but it refuses to work for me. Email or PM me and I will send it if needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Callum. Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 Thanks Covlocks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbobsam Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 To calculate the Ft/lb of an air rifle you do the following calculation. ft/lb = Velocity of pellet (feet per second) x Velocity of pellet (feet per second) x Weight Of Pellet (Grains) / 450240 eg, 712ft per second x 712ft per second x 10.6 grain pellet weight, divided by 450240 = 11.93ft/lb Simple !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 well, a legal 177 air rifle will chuck an average pellet out at about 900ish ft per second, thats about 11ft/lb. 570 ft/sec is slower than a 22.hope this helps. I think the maths has gone a little wrong there, an Average .177 at 900 ft sec will be well over 12ft lb, not, about 11ft lb, to be honest you would have to find a VERY light one to be legal at that speed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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