Cranfield Posted March 20, 2010 Report Share Posted March 20, 2010 Conduct the discussion civilly, there is no need for personal insults. Tidy it up, or the thread gets closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poorwullie Posted March 20, 2010 Report Share Posted March 20, 2010 abiquity- no dictionary results am·bi·gu·i·ty /ˌæmbɪˈgyuɪti/ Show Spelled[am-bi-gyoo-i-tee] Show IPA –noun,plural-ties. 1.doubtfulness or uncertainty of meaning or intention: to speak with ambiguity; an ambiguity of manner. 2.an unclear, indefinite, or equivocal word, expression, meaning, etc.: a contract free of ambiguities; the ambiguities of modern poetry. Cheers for clearing that up. :look: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight32 Posted March 21, 2010 Report Share Posted March 21, 2010 (edited) As far as I was aware the boers modified ammunition during the boer war, to produce the same results. As per the link below, it seems the british were first to manufacture expanding ammo in bulk. The survival of the wounded is what motivated the banning of bullets that caused huge trauma, even when not placed in the vitals. It wasn't long ago that the American surgeons tried to get some types of commercial ammo banned for the same reason. I used Federal hydro shok (met), and it was on the list of undesirable ammo. This was again due to the ability to save the wounded. Have a look at this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expanding_bullet As for shooting geese with them, if it is done with the authority as stated, well cary on. I have attended many week end waterfowl shoots where I have doubled my bag by walking the dog through the wetlands afterwards and picking up wounded birds. All shot with shot guns. Early expanding ammunition came in the form of the Minie' bullet. Its claim to fame began in the American civil war, although it was available earlier. Due to the bullet weight, slow velocity and hollow base it was an expanding round even though used in a musket. Its characteristics caused tremendous tissue damage and that is why there was so many amputations during that war era. Its use was highly scrutinized in the post war years until the arrival of FMJ and metallic ammuntion. Edited March 21, 2010 by starlight32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markyboy Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 shooting geese with rifles have you ever heard the likes,taking heads off at 100 yards,you dont half meet them on this forum,what ceases to amaze me is that the brittish countryside is being patrolled by idots with guns who think its good to take heads off at a 100 yards,do you take pleasure in this? go and brag about it somwhere else you clown!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 (edited) shooting geese with rifles have you ever heard the likes,taking heads off at 100 yards,you dont half meet them on this forum,what ceases to amaze me is that the brittish countryside is being patrolled by idots with guns who think its good to take heads off at a 100 yards,do you take pleasure in this? go and brag about it somwhere else you clown!! and you have experience in this matter?? no did'nt think so, carry on dekers best gun for wounding i have ever seen is a shotgun. certainly can be Mark Edited March 27, 2010 by Paul223 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markyboy Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 no experiance,im a wildfowler,fox shooter,rabbits,pigeons. you dont get me going out trying to take the head off a pigeon at 50 yard with my 22? why because its a waste of ******** time. if you feel good enough to brag about the fact you can take a head off a canada goose at 100 yard with some fancy ammo then good on you. you miss that bird and you will look a complete *****. but i bet this num nut hasnt missed one before, as i get older and wiser you tend to find the people the brag bout stuff like this often tend to be the person who ********* his way through life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 no experiance,im a wildfowler,fox shooter,rabbits,pigeons. you dont get me going out trying to take the head off a pigeon at 50 yard with my 22? why because its a waste of ******** time. if you feel good enough to brag about the fact you can take a head off a canada goose at 100 yard with some fancy ammo then good on you. you miss that bird and you will look a complete *****. but i bet this num nut hasnt missed one before, as i get older and wiser you tend to find the people the brag bout stuff like this often tend to be the person who ********* his way through life. Chap, you are welcome to your opinion but I suggest you read my responses a bit better and refrain from the personal abuse. It is also more than apparent you have minimal knowledge of the .17HMR and its capabilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK fowler Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 (edited) as you get older and wiser at 27 Edited March 28, 2010 by UK fowler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixhills 69 Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 I totally agree with Deckers Re the damage the Canada geese can cause in large numbers and the farmers that have this problem want a quick answer they do not want to go out and spend lots of money on things that do not work so they ask US the people they ask to control there vermin. I also use a rifle whilst they are on the ground ( i do not publish pictures as i have no reason to show of.) ** I have been shot and wounded by a small calibre rifle whilst serving and have spent weeks and months wishing it had killed me, the British Army are trained to use an eray of weapons. The 7.62 was replaced not because it causes less damage its the shooter that kills not the bullet (POA) 5.56 was taken up in the late 1980's early 90's as it was interchangeable between troops ie if a yank was found dead in battel i could take his ammo and it would fit my SA80*** Please think when comparing Bullets,people and animals there is a differance. The poor Member that asked the question still has not had an answer as members are to busy taking to Hart the Coments quoted by Deckers and have now made it personal Ever person has there own thoughts on this subject I personally agree with Most of what Deckers has said but i also agree with MC and other mebers that they take Canad Geese as wildfowl it is a grey area. ** I Feel Very Angree That Fallen Soldiers Are Brought Into A Stupid Argument: HAVE SOME RESPECT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 This is going nowhere and does not need resurrecting, so we will close it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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