digger Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 just heard the news from bradford.totally disgusted at the shooting. my thoughts are with the family of the probationer who was shot. sincerely hope the piece of scum who so bravely pulled the trigger dies slowly and very painfully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kip270 Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 Our thoughts are with the family. So much for the government taking illegal weapons off the streets!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 Here here. LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 It makes you want to spit doesn’t it. And what makes it worse is that some silly labour back-bench erk will still try to blame us for it. :< My daughter was a police officer in Birmingham in the 90s,and I was glad when she decided to go back to university and get a better job with less risk and more money. Being constantly called a “White bitch”, and other nice racist names finally took its toll and she decided it just wasn’t worth the hassle, especially when those same people would then scream racist when they were arrested. She wasn’t a racist when she joined, but by the time she left she had begun to wonder what the hell the media were playing at. All they ever wanted to report was police racism; nothing was ever said about the amount of abuse that the police have to take day in and day out. :< I hope they catch these bast@rds and with any luck they will have to take them with lethal force. They who live by the sword should bloody-well die by it. :< G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete k Posted November 19, 2005 Report Share Posted November 19, 2005 well said gemini , they should bring back the death penalty for serious stuff like this . pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted November 19, 2005 Report Share Posted November 19, 2005 well said gemini , they should bring back the death penalty for serious stuff like this . pete They should never have got rid of it. The police get knocked all the time but would you want the job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rooster Posted November 19, 2005 Report Share Posted November 19, 2005 well said gemini , they should bring back the death penalty for serious stuff like this . pete Totally agree but I don't see why the police should have any more protection under the law than any other law abiding citizen. Amazing to see how gun crime has escalated since the pathetic and pointless handgun ban. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonno 357 Posted November 19, 2005 Report Share Posted November 19, 2005 Bradford had become lawless many years ago. Nothing has changed sadly Jonno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete k Posted November 19, 2005 Report Share Posted November 19, 2005 snakebite iam going to join in january Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted November 19, 2005 Report Share Posted November 19, 2005 well said gemini , they should bring back the death penalty for serious stuff like this . pete Totally agree but I don't see why the police should have any more protection under the law than any other law abiding citizen. Amazing to see how gun crime has escalated since the pathetic and pointless handgun ban. Whilst I agree that the banning of handguns was a useless knee jerk action? it is not however true to say "gun" crime has increased? use of handguns and shotguns is down I believe by over 20% however replica gun use has rocketed? so much so the overall figures are up? now could this not be construed as criminals now resorting to using replica's as "real guns are more difficult for them to obtain? my worry is that there will again be more gun controls which once again will only hurt the legitimate user! Also whilst offering my symapthies to the families of the poor woman killed, I was somewhat dissapointed by the WE WILL get them and leave no stone unturned comments made by senior officers? perhaps if this attitude was adopted for ALL crimes and penalties imposed appropriately then perhaps incidents like this may become a distant memory? cheers KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted November 19, 2005 Report Share Posted November 19, 2005 I have not heard of any reports that say "Gun Crime" is down by 20%. In 2003 (the last time I believe official figures were released), it had risen by 35%. I don't think the difference is anything to do with replica guns, unless they are being converted to fire real ammunition. How would the Police know that a replica gun was used in a crime that has not been solved ? I don't think there will be greater controls in the area of gun ownership, handguns are the criminals weapons of choice and they have been banned already. Air weapons may come under greater restrictions for public nuisance ( not criminal ) reasons. I heard on the News tonight, that four men and a woman have been arrested in connection with the shooting of the Policewomen. Of course this doesn't mean they will be charged, but hopefully progress is being made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENGRASS Posted November 19, 2005 Report Share Posted November 19, 2005 It comes with the Job Gemini no offence intended. Also well done to your daughter for getting in the job but also for getting out in one piece. As for the racism issue the Home Office are activally looking to recruit more Ethnics and Gays to combat prejudcies. This in my opinion is a pretext. This can only be harmful to society in the long term I believe. Scenario 2 Police Vacancies. 5 Hetrosexual white males apply. 3 Hetrosexual White females apply. 1 Ethnic minority. 1 Gay male. Who gets the jobs well not the white hetrosexuals. ( known fact to the powers that be ) All leads back to the Politicians who are looking after No1. Gemini I take it your daughter was employed by West Mids. What O.C.U. Please reply to me with a personal message. Again no offence to you or your daughter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonno 357 Posted November 19, 2005 Report Share Posted November 19, 2005 snakebite iam going to join in january Let's just hope you don't fail the entrance exam. Some of the questions are expected a 9 to 10 year old could answer with ease One question from the Police entrance exam courtesy of the radio last week A Police Office starts work at 0930hrs and finishs at 1800hrs How many hours has she worked A 7hrs B 8hrs 30mins C 6hrs 15mins D No Hours I thought it was D cos all they do is sit in cars, eat take aways and **** Jonno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted November 20, 2005 Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 Greengrass, PM sent. G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted November 20, 2005 Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 I have not heard of any reports that say "Gun Crime" is down by 20%. In 2003 (the last time I believe official figures were released), it had risen by 35% Cranfield look at my post again ? I never said "gun crime " was down what I said was use of REAL guns is actually down ie as said shotguns and REAL hand guns also it is worth noting that deaths relayed to guns are down as are robberies involving the use of "guns" the real problem is as I said the use of IMITATION weapons airsofts being the real culprits ? perhaps if some indexing and common sense on the reporting figures were used we would all have a true perception of what is really happening re guns and subsequently the possible effects on our sport (but then again perhaps it is deliberate policy in order to effect "control" over the leagal ownership of guns?) Whilst the death of the WPC is unacceptable (as is any death not just a police officer) considering that the last police woman killed was over 20 years ago (was it pc fletcher at the iranian embassy?) its not as if we are witnessing scenes from starsky and hutch? most gun crime (real stuff) is committed in 3 districts ie the met (london)! greater manchester, and the west midlands? make up your own minds on the common denomenator? anyway have a look at this? cheers KW http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1614245,00.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted November 20, 2005 Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 Unfortunately what they don’t tell anyone is the fact that ALL crimes with the word “Gun” in them are reported as “Gun crimes” So, if a local DIY gets broken into and a glue gun gets stolen, or a staple gun or a mastic gun…………… Or if a Hilti gun gets nicked off a building site, or..... well you get the picture. As much as 95% of all crimes committed with the word “Gun” in them are with toy guns, or water pistols, or glue guns, or replicas or nail guns etc, but because it suits the government to lump them all together, it makes it look like we are overrun with gun crime and of course they must act to ban SOMETHING, otherwise it would look like they weren’t doing anything. Unfortunately it has backfired on them and they are now squealing like stuck pigs trying to convince Joe Public that there isn’t as much gun crime as they think. A simple case of telling the truth to begin with would have helped……but then they wouldn’t have been able to screw law-abiding shooters, would they. G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browning GTS Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 It comes with the Job Gemini no offence intended. Also well done to your daughter for getting in the job but also for getting out in one piece. As for the racism issue the Home Office are activally looking to recruit more Ethnics and Gays to combat prejudcies. This in my opinion is a pretext. This can only be harmful to society in the long term I believe. Scenario 2 Police Vacancies. 5 Hetrosexual white males apply. 3 Hetrosexual White females apply. 1 Ethnic minority. 1 Gay male. Who gets the jobs well not the white hetrosexuals. ( known fact to the powers that be ) All leads back to the Politicians who are looking after No1. Gemini I take it your daughter was employed by West Mids. What O.C.U. Please reply to me with a personal message. Again no offence to you or your daughter. I have to tread carefully here but in the 80`s i joined the special police with the view to joining full time, and a am sorry to say but i loved it. I really used to look forwards to going in and help to sort out all the scum on a Saturday night. I remember once i followed through an arrest on a drink driver in the station he said but you are only one of those part timers to that i replied what difference as that made to you. Now the point is on one Saterday night in a Bucks town all hell let loose out side the local disco` a one point even the wpc`s were joining in. Normally in a situation like that they would control the traffic ( this was taking part in the middle of a ring road) the point is that during all this whilst try to help arrest a rather big bald headed chap i felt a tap on my shoulder and it was a full time copper handing me back my dropped radio now don`t you think he could have been better employed considering all the s--t that was going on, mind one one thing i forgot he was not English to be fair he did not make his probation. What pis--d me off that he got in where as i failed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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