mrgsm Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 (edited) Is there any one on the forum that knows if there is a diff. between the Cz452 / Cz453 17hmr guns are! as I'm trying to see if there is a diff in the magazine units! Any help :blink: thanks... Edited May 12, 2010 by mrgsm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 If you don't get an answer give Edgar Brothers a call, they were pretty helpful when I called them up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ST3V3 Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 i think the 453 has a set trigger whereas the 452 doesnt. so the mags should be interchangeable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrgsm Posted May 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 I think i have found out why the magazines i ordered direct from Cz did not fit! they sent me the ones for the 455, just waiting on an email to confirm this, many thanks.. for the replies... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ550Kevlar Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 CZ452 has a set trigger and the CZ453 has the option to use the set trigger or flick a switch and you are on custom set adjustable trigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colster Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 CZ453 has a set trigger, push it forwards and it's set to be super light, the 452 doesn't. The mags will interchange fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redgum Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 I think i have found out why the magazines i ordered direct from Cz did not fit! they sent me the ones for the 455, just waiting on an email to confirm this, many thanks.. for the replies... I just bought a .17hmr magazine off, forgotten, think its Peek-at but his names Shaun and it did not fit by a mile, I made it fit as I had already had put the file over it before realising it was totally wrong. Now did Shaun mention mrgsm was checking out if they fitted the 452, maybe wrong. The mag can be made to fit but its not for a 452 or 453 ( set trigger is 453). I was told he had never had this problem before and others had bought them for their CZ17hmr with no problem fitting them, think some porkies are being told somewhere along the line. The bottom line is, if your stuck with a 455 plastic mag and you cannot change it then pm me and I will take a photo of what I had to do to mine to make it fit ( its not straight forward.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 The 452 and 453 magazines are interchangeable, I believe the new floor plate on the magazine actually states 452/453! :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 Interesting point..are the 455 magazines different then??? If so, I wonder why?? :blink: Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redgum Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 The CZ452 mag has .22wmr/.17hmr on the bottom of the mag, the mag I bought which I am assuming is from a 455 ( whats a 455 for the record) also has .22wmr/.17hmr on the bottom of the mag which makes it equally confusing. I had to alter the mag drastically to make it fit, it was either that or bin it and I wanted to at least try and not waste the money. There is no way the mag I recieved was a manufacturing mistake as it was to well finished, it really did look the part but it tapered outward so the bottom was far to wide to fit into the mag chamber and there was a retaining lug on it, the 452 mag is recessed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redgum Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 Had a look at the CZ website and would say that the magazine I purchased from peek-at is a 455 magazine. The 455 being CZ's latest release aimed at the american market which has interchangable barrel facility. It doesnt look like they do a 16 inch varmint as yet but if they do I will be first in the que. The magazine is neater than the steel ones, is shorter so doesnt stick out so much, ah and one last thing, it don't fit the 452/3 unless your pretty good with a sharp file and emery paper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peek-at Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 (edited) please see below. Edited May 14, 2010 by peek-at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peek-at Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 (edited) I just bought a .17hmr magazine off, forgotten, think its Peek-at but his names Shaun and it did not fit by a mile, I made it fit as I had already had put the file over it before realising it was totally wrong. Now did Shaun mention mrgsm was checking out if they fitted the 452, maybe wrong. The mag can be made to fit but its not for a 452 or 453 ( set trigger is 453).I was told he had never had this problem before and others had bought them for their CZ17hmr with no problem fitting them, think some porkies are being told somewhere along the line. The bottom line is, if your stuck with a 455 plastic mag and you cannot change it then pm me and I will take a photo of what I had to do to mine to make it fit ( its not straight forward.) Redgum.......... I have acted in complete good faith with you at all times and I have sold one other 17hmr with no complaint. It is possible that CZ may have made an error in sending the wrong item or in maufacturing and im sorry that it led you to hours of fettling to make it fit. However, it is grossly unfair to call into question my integrity and i can assure you that no porky's have been told. If you would like I am happy to give you the details of the other PW member who bought one and you can check with him. I can also give you the details of a couple of dozen other folk who have bought items from me with no problem. It may have been better if you think im lying to you, to bring that up with me by PM or on my post...... & not by intimating that i am less than honest on someone elses post The CZ452 mag has .22wmr/.17hmr on the bottom of the mag, the mag I bought which I am assuming is from a 455 ( whats a 455 for the record) also has .22wmr/.17hmr on the bottom of the mag which makes it equally confusing. I had to alter the mag drastically to make it fit, it was either that or bin it and I wanted to at least try and not waste the money. There is no way the mag I recieved was a manufacturing mistake as it was to well finished, it really did look the part but it tapered outward so the bottom was far to wide to fit into the mag chamber and there was a retaining lug on it, the 452 mag is recessed. ........and as you say the mag is marked .22wmr/.177hmr which confused you..... so how as I supposed to spot the error before sending it to you? (not being the owner of a .17hmr) As I have already said on my post...........i would have happily refunded you prior to getting your file out, so please dont have a go at me on other posts & bring my honesty into question. I am really quite annoyed ! Peek-at (shaun) Edited May 14, 2010 by peek-at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redgum Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 Redgum.......... I have acted in complete good faith with you at all times and I have sold one other 17hmr with no complaint. It is possible that CZ may have made an error in sending the wrong item or in maufacturing and im sorry that it led you to hours of fettling to make it fit. However, it is grossly unfair to call into question my integrity and i can assure you that no porky's have been told. If you would like I am happy to give you the details of the other PW member who bought one and you can check with him. I can also give you the details of a couple of dozen other folk who have bought items from me with no problem.It may have been better if you think im lying to you, to bring that up with me by PM or on my post...... & not by intimating that i am less than honest on someone elses post ........and as you say the mag is marked .22wmr/.177hmr which confused you..... so how as I supposed to spot the error before sending it to you? (not being the owner of a .17hmr) As I have already said on my post...........i would have happily refunded you prior to getting your file out, so please dont have a go at me on other posts & bring my honesty into question. I am really quite annoyed ! Peek-at (shaun) Sorry Shaun, I didnt mean this as a stab at you but you did say in a post that a certain mrgsm was taking a mag to get one checked out in a .17hmr 452 and quite obviously it didnt by his post on here. Maybe it was nieve of me to assume as you were selling them, and saying you had no previous complaint with these .17hmr mags to expect it to maybe fit. I have looked on the CZ site and I really dont think they do a polycarb .17hmr mag only the metal one but I'm no expert. If you have sold em before and you have a 452 customer with a plastic mag then they are available and I would love to purchase one because quite honestly the metal ones are pants. I was so excited at finding a plastic mag at such a good price I was almost willing it to fit, you have a great little service here and your correspondence is excellent along with your speed of supply and you cant be making much out of it at your prices. Sorry if I caused offence I was just saying as it seemed to me, I would gladly buy of you again and recommend you whole hartily, but if I do buy another .17hmr mag I will send it back if it doesnt fit, alternatively I will buy a 455. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 (edited) Avoid the set trigger at all costs. My CZ550 has one and I just can't trust it. It actually has a bit of trigger creep!! I've not tried it, but apparently if you're out on a cold night, you can attempt to set the trigger and slip (with a very cold thumb) and *bang* the rifle goes off... Edited May 14, 2010 by Billy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 The set trigger on the CZs is actually a very good unit. If you don't like the way it performs then take it to a competant gunsmith and it will come back to you near on the best you've used. I got talked through the process on the phone while I did my 527 and it turned out stunning. The 452 has no set trigger and it's a bit rough until it's worked on. The 453 unit is the set type and much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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