Ozzy Fudd Posted May 24, 2010 Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 Not defending the pope at all, but if he is responsible for the conduct of every one in the RCC then surely Dawkins and Hitchens are by default responsible for the conduct of everyone that claims to be an athiest ? not the same, the pope is the leader of the church, theres no heirarchy in atheism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted May 24, 2010 Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 Not defending the pope at all, but if he is responsible for the conduct of every one in the RCC then surely Dawkins and Hitchens are by default responsible for the conduct of everyone that claims to be an athiest ? Henry, I thought Hitchens was more an Antitheist than an Atheist? Regardless, I think your point is flawed on numerous levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted May 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 The point of the post is that it's a waste of tax payers money that could be better spent on hospitals etc. If the RC's want to see him then EasyJet do cheap flights to Rome or the Death Star or where ever he's from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted May 24, 2010 Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 Nah, they have stuck their heads above the parapet, RD particularly. At the church of dawkins there was a BIG fall out regarding the BB and that along with vociferous opposition/books/paid talks to anyone/thing that is "theist" then IMHO they are the same as the apostles during the 1st century and have to suffer accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted May 24, 2010 Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 The point of the post is that it's a waste of tax payers money that could be better spent on hospitals etc. If the RC's want to see him then EasyJet do cheap flights to Rome or the Death Star or where ever he's from. Totally agree Darren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiskymac Posted May 24, 2010 Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 (edited) How the chuff this type of thing happens given our current financial situation is beyond me. Go on lads sling taxes up a bit further so we can all give a bit more hard earned sterling, but give the big cheese in the white coat a bloody good holiday. Sweet Jesus (no pun intended). Our coalition 'fresh start' government should put their 'feet' down and say ' OI BENEDICT, NOOO'. Tis madness. Edited May 24, 2010 by whiskymac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocker3 Posted May 24, 2010 Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 (edited) i am not religious but surely if catholics want the pope to come here why don't they make the catholic church pay for his trip/holiday and all the costs included then see how much they want him over here but in the end it will be tax payers that foot the bill grips ma **** Edited May 24, 2010 by cocker3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasper3 Posted May 24, 2010 Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 the church should pay 100% for the visit..I personanaly have no religious beliefs and I wouldnt want my tax money spent on such a visit... if the old boy wants to come..i have no problem with that..each to their own..but!!! the church should pay for it... too many wars and confrontations have been had in the name of religion and money and even in this day and age... it still goes on... I will be doing a special pope rug for £50 if anyone is interested...well !!!!! buisiness is buisiness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiskymac Posted May 24, 2010 Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 (edited) I'm not religious or anti-religious, I really don't give a toss whether people believe or don't. What I resent is the fact that we as taxpayers foot the bill for something like this. And thinking about it I would feel the same way even if our economy was soaring, instead of cartwheeling off into the distance. If it's an important religious issue then religion (the church) should find a way of paying for it. No problem at all with that. Edited May 24, 2010 by whiskymac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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