Anthony.D Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 Can anyone please help. I have 2 O/Us both 28" barrels , overall gun length 45" each. I am very used to them. Now the problem, I want to buy a S/A for wildfowling. I've been looking for a 26" barrel, thinking that the overall length (47"), being nearer to the length of my gun, would help me get on with it better. I've seen a 28" semi (maxus) which is overall 4" longer than a O/U 28", but is 3 oz lighter than my O/U game gun. I'm worried that the semi will not be as fast and manouverable as the O/U and basically I won'y get on with it. I've also seen a 26" semi (SX3), this is 47" long and 1oz. lighter than my O/U. Do you think the barrel lenght will make such a difference, or do you think I've really gone over the top with indecision. I need help please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 I find because there is less weight you need a little extra overall length, 28 inch in a semi is nice, 30 is a bit to long for me, try a few and see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throdgrain Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 I always used to have 28" on a semi, but now I've gone for 26. Just depends what you like really, try a few and see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 I've had a Beretta 303 with 26 but all my other autos have been 28, works for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berties Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 Can anyone please help.I have 2 O/Us both 28" barrels , overall gun length 45" each. I am very used to them. Now the problem, I want to buy a S/A for wildfowling. I've been looking for a 26" barrel, thinking that the overall length (47"), being nearer to the length of my gun, would help me get on with it better. I've seen a 28" semi (maxus) which is overall 4" longer than a O/U 28", but is 3 oz lighter than my O/U game gun. I'm worried that the semi will not be as fast and manouverable as the O/U and basically I won'y get on with it. I've also seen a 26" semi (SX3), this is 47" long and 1oz. lighter than my O/U. Do you think the barrel lenght will make such a difference, or do you think I've really gone over the top with indecision. I need help please. I shoot clays with a 32" as better with distance shots but ahve a habit of missing close stuff,so I shoot a 30" sx3 which does a alright on closer stuff and 50ft shots,but that is what suits me i am well over 6ft and find it easier to swing a longer barrel,my game gun is 28" again fine for woodland shots pick up afew see how they fit you and the sx3 is a lighter gun but can be easier shim adjusted see how they swing,there is no right advice,its what suits you and what is the best all round gun for your needs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony.D Posted June 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 (edited) Thanks for the help. I've asked are there any for demo, but no. I'm still in a mind set of complete indecision, but will try to work it out. Its the fast ducks that whistle past before I've even seen them that I'm thinking about. They seem to take up a greater percentage of shots. The longer range shots seem fewer. Possibly 70%-30%. Throdgrai and Deckers. Do you mind me asking how did you get along with the change in length. Was it just time or did things feel right immediately. Thaks Anthony Edited June 21, 2010 by Anthony.D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangey Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Thanks for the help. I've asked are there any for demo, but no.I'm still in a mind set of complete indecision, but will try to work it out. Its the fast ducks that whistle past before I've even seen them that I'm thinking about. They seem to take up a greater percentage of shots. The longer range shots seem fewer. Possibly 70%-30%. Throdgrai and Deckers. Do you mind me asking how did you get along with the change in length. Was it just time or did things feel right immediately. Thaks Anthony hi,i shoot a 30" maxus and escort and find i shoot better with a 30" than my previous autos of 28" have no problems with close or long range pigeons and find im hitting birds id normally miss behind,but as said before its what feels right for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony.D Posted June 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 hi,i shoot a 30" maxus and escort and find i shoot better with a 30" than my previous autos of 28" have no problems with close or long range pigeons and find im hitting birds id normally miss behind,but as said before its what feels right for you. Thanks. One thing I liked about he maxus was the large trigger guard. I'm thinking gloves in winter! I'm not sure how the speed load would affect me, but I suppose it would be handy to have. I did not like the movement in the forend though. Do you think Browning's claim of it being very smooth. And less recoil (due to back boring ) is true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangey Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Thanks. One thing I liked about he maxus was the large trigger guard. I'm thinking gloves in winter! I'm not sure how the speed load would affect me, but I suppose it would be handy to have. I did not like the movement in the forend though. Do you think Browning's claim of it being very smooth. And less recoil (due to back boring ) is true? dont really know what they have done but recoil is minimal and dont feel any movement in forend but the speed load is brilliant in the confines of a hide,you con keep the gun upright and just slot one in the mag and it just fires it into the chamber,so much easier than messing around getting one in the chamber.ithink browning have really done their homework on this gun,by far the best auto ive had.cant wait to try it on geese and duck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony.D Posted June 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 dont really know what they have done but recoil is minimal and dont feel any movement in forend but the speed load is brilliant in the confines of a hide,you con keep the gun upright and just slot one in the mag and it just fires it into the chamber,so much easier than messing around getting one in the chamber.ithink browning have really done their homework on this gun,by far the best auto ive had.cant wait to try it on geese and duck. Have you tried a 3.5" cartrige yet? Thanks for the help, much appreciated. The movement I noticed in the forend was very slight. The price paid for the easy remove system I suppose. I must admit I'm nearly sold on one, just got to decide which barrel length AGAIN!!!. I really am losing sleep over this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Thanks for the help. I've asked are there any for demo, but no.I'm still in a mind set of complete indecision, but will try to work it out. Its the fast ducks that whistle past before I've even seen them that I'm thinking about. They seem to take up a greater percentage of shots. The longer range shots seem fewer. Possibly 70%-30%. Throdgrai and Deckers. Do you mind me asking how did you get along with the change in length. Was it just time or did things feel right immediately. Thaks Anthony I had 28 and 30 OU already, somehow the 26 Semi always seemed short, it was an easy and obvious choice to get a 28" Semi for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangey Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Have you tried a 3.5" cartrige yet? Thanks for the help, much appreciated. The movement I noticed in the forend was very slight. The price paid for the easy remove system I suppose. I must admit I'm nearly sold on one, just got to decide which barrel length AGAIN!!!. I really am losing sleep over this! tried 3 1/2s, i think whatever gun you shoot a 64gm cartridge out of your gona get fair bit of recoil from it but its not as bad as people expect,but saying that i woulding want to have to use them for a days pigeon shooting.lol.your really getting in a pickle over barrel lengh,just pick a few up and try em.im in wellingborough,if your anywhere near yuor welcome to come and try mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throdgrain Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Thanks for the help. I've asked are there any for demo, but no.I'm still in a mind set of complete indecision, but will try to work it out. Its the fast ducks that whistle past before I've even seen them that I'm thinking about. They seem to take up a greater percentage of shots. The longer range shots seem fewer. Possibly 70%-30%. Throdgrai and Deckers. Do you mind me asking how did you get along with the change in length. Was it just time or did things feel right immediately. Thaks Anthony The thing is, in this thread no one is taking into account that with a semi auto or pump action the overall length of the gun is not only determined by the barrel length, but also by the length of the reciever. For example, overall my 26" barrelled Remington 870 is shorter than my mates 24" barrelled Benelli SuperNova. I shot pretty well with my 28" Benelli M2, overall better in fairness than I have shot with any other gun before or after. But, when I shoot with a longer gun now it feels wierd. I think it's just something to get used to. Really you should be thinking of a 28" semi auto as if it was a 32" over/under (roughly!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony.D Posted June 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 tried 3 1/2s, i think whatever gun you shoot a 64gm cartridge out of your gona get fair bit of recoil from it but its not as bad as people expect,but saying that i woulding want to have to use them for a days pigeon shooting.lol.your really getting in a pickle over barrel lengh,just pick a few up and try em.im in wellingborough,if your anywhere near yuor welcome to come and try mine Thanks for the very kind offer. I'm in S.Wales unfortunately. I am getting my head around it though. This thread has helped. I think I'm reading too much into it and I'll get the hang of the neww gun bet it 26 or 28". I think you've pointed me towards a maxus though. Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony.D Posted June 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 I had 28 and 30 OU already, somehow the 26 Semi always seemed short, it was an easy and obvious choice to get a 28" Semi for me! That is interesting. I think I'm heading towards a 28" maxus which is lighter and should be that little bit faster than the slightly heavier SX3. Thanks for the help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony.D Posted June 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Thanks Thodgrain. That is what I was/am thinking when asking for help and advice. Here I go again I think! Head spinning time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djrwood Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 I use a beretta urika 2 with 26" barrels and absolutly love it. Nice and easy to shoulder and shoot and so so easy to throw around to point at those birds coming over out of nowhere. It's like what everyone else has said though, it's all whatever works for you. As long as it fits well I don't think that the difference between 26or28 and 28or30 will make much difference. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 (edited) The thing is, in this thread no one is taking into account that with a semi auto or pump action the overall length of the gun is not only determined by the barrel length, but also by the length of the reciever. For example, overall my 26" barrelled Remington 870 is shorter than my mates 24" barrelled Benelli SuperNova. I shot pretty well with my 28" Benelli M2, overall better in fairness than I have shot with any other gun before or after. But, when I shoot with a longer gun now it feels wierd. I think it's just something to get used to. Really you should be thinking of a 28" semi auto as if it was a 32" over/under (roughly!). Please do not tell me what I am taking into account, I have had Semis and OU.... YOU are forgetting balance and weight issues of single barrels etc so please do not make assumptions.....a 28" semi works for me better than a 26 inch! Others will be different sizes/weights and have different histories and requirement, but please do not suggest nobody understands length issues! :yp: Edited June 22, 2010 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony.D Posted June 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 I use a beretta urika 2 with 26" barrels and absolutly love it. Nice and easy to shoulder and shoot and so so easy to throw around to point at those birds coming over out of nowhere. It's like what everyone else has said though, it's all whatever works for you. As long as it fits well I don't think that the difference between 26or28 and 28or30 will make much difference. Dan Thanks Dan, I've seen an extrema 28". I must admit I would go for a 26" one of those. It did seem a big gun to me, a bit on the heavy side, hence my interest in the SX3 or maxus. I did like the SBE2's but have read negative things about he recoil. I have fired a montefeltro and did not like the recoil on that with 28g carts., so I hate to think what 3.5 carts. would be like! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
originalgeezer Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Apologies for all who have seen my other posts as feel I am like stuck record at the moment, but not on purpose but just that I have just been through this all as the Maxus 28in was in my choice of last two that I was deciding between In the end I chose Benelli Comfort 28 in and have used it today and found it handled for me very well indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throdgrain Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 (edited) Please do not tell me what I am taking into account, I have had Semis and OU.... YOU are forgetting balance and weight issues of single barrels etc so please do not make assumptions.....a 28" semi works for me better than a 26 inch! Others will be different sizes/weights and have different histories and requirement, but please do not suggest nobody understands length issues! lmao calm yourself No one in any of those posts took into account what I had to say so my post was perfectly valid wasnt it? Or do you expect me to be aware of what you know/dont know when you havent posted it? Originalgeezer glad to see you've decided on a gun, now all you have to do is go shoot it - a lot ! AnthonyD, best thing is to decide on one, and shoot that Edited June 24, 2010 by throdgrain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony.D Posted June 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 lmao calm yourself No one in any of those posts took into account what I had to say so my post was perfectly valid wasnt it? Or do you expect me to be aware of what you know/dont know when you havent posted it? Originalgeezer glad to see you've decided on a gun, now all you have to do is go shoot it - a lot ! AnthonyD, best thing is to decide on one, and shoot that Hello Thodgrain, I did answer your post. As I said, you hit the nail on the head ablot my length of gun dilema. I agree, I must get out there and buy one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
originalgeezer Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 Throdgrain It had a workout yesterday with 100 Carts through and I am very happy with it :unsure: and It will have another workout on Saturday morning all being well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throdgrain Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 Thats what we like to hear :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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