TJ91 Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 unfortunately an old woman decided pulling out infront of me on a dual carriageway would be a good idea and it ended in 2 wrote off cars, i cant afford to get another until my insurance pays out which could be a while, i have 2 days shooting planned in the next 6days and the only way i can get there is motorbike or bus, i have taken guns on the bus before without any problem but i really dont like the looks i get from some people... so i am wondering if it is legal to carry my gun in its slip while on my motorbike, i know not recommended but as it is not a sportsbike i am sat upright and the gun would not be near any moving parts and wouldnt be a nuisance whilst riding (i have carried fishing rods before, no problems) i just didnt know if the law would stop me and have anything to say if i did it??? any advice?? (other than the 'dont do it', bad idea' its stupid') IS IT LEGAL?? hopefully it will only be 1 or 2, 7-8mile trips. thanks in advance oh and by the way there is no chance of a lift unfortunatly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breastman Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 It will probably come down to the opinion of any Police officer that sees/stops you! Some officers interpret having a gun 'covered from public view' as being in a slip, others claim the gun in the slip also has to be covered, as far as i'm aware its a literal covering of the gun that it required. If i were you i'd ring and/or email your FEO and see what they think, and preferably get something in writing from them, although with your time scale it may not be feasible. Is it a rifle or a shotgun you need to transport? If its a shotgun i'd just break it in two and transport it in a non-gun bag/case. (e.g. a guitar case), and use a roll-up style slip at the site if needed. A lad at my straw baler regularly comes to the shoot on a quad with one of those 'obvious-its-a-gun' hardcases on the front and i think he comes a good 10 mile to get there. Whatever you chose to do, take you original FAC/SGC as it will greatly cut down on any hassle whatever happens Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deny essex Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Legal in a slip but not sure about the highways law with it on a motorcycle. In view of recent events if its a shotgun why not break it down to fit in a rucksack, less obvious so less alarming to panic merchants. A rifle will be more difficult but with a little thought and disguise may help to ward off any un-wanted and un-warrented attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katash Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 (edited) Surely in any gunslip regardless of if its broken down or not is fine, I'd be more concerned by the choice of clothing and the visibility of things like cartridge belts. If I was to purchase a gun from my local gunsmith (not that I ever would - the robbing *******) that is situated in the middle of town I'd have no option but to walk through town with it - same situation, I'd say in a gunslip would be fine so long as you have your SGS with you. .... But then I live in a rural area, I'd think twice about catching a bus in Manchester or London whilst carrying an obvious 'shiney item' what with all the chav magpies about. Oh and with regards on a motorbike, I used to carry my shotgun slung over my back in a slip on my moped when I was a kid - not sure if it was legal or not but back then the idea never entered my head .... Sad how times have changed. Edited June 22, 2010 by Katash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJN Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 break shotgun down and carry in medium/large rucksack ? or get the special shotgun scabbard backpacks. M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickmep Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 we have a couple of guys who turn up to clay shoots on motorbikes in the summer............... so it must be legal............................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ91 Posted June 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 thanks for the replys its a semi auto 12g i have so i can break it down and stick it in my hiking/camping backpack...good idea that, never thought of it. i always carry my license so no problems there and the cartridges are at the farmers, he buys them for me so i dont have to lug them about!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloke Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 (edited) I am in a similar situation, I bought one of the Napier Protector 2 gunslips - see here: http://www.napieruk.com/acatalog/copy_of_c...nstock_Kit.html When folded up, it could be any of a variety of things to the uneducated, certainly doesn't shout 'GUN'. Opened out, it is a full length fleece-lined gunslip, I'm well chuffed with it It isn't cheap from Napier, but I have seen them on Fleabay for as little as £35 as new. (Also, if the police moan, you can tell them it is apparently the gunslip used by the police national team) Edited June 22, 2010 by Bloke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverhawk Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 My dad used to break the gun down and put it into one of those green tool bags when going out.He never used a gunslip in hes life ,feo was fine with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dempy Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 unfortunately an old woman decided pulling out infront of me on a dual carriageway would be a good idea and it ended in 2 wrote off cars, i cant afford to get another until my insurance pays out which could be a while, i have 2 days shooting planned in the next 6days and the only way i can get there is motorbike or bus, i have taken guns on the bus before without any problem but i really dont like the looks i get from some people...so i am wondering if it is legal to carry my gun in its slip while on my motorbike, i know not recommended but as it is not a sportsbike i am sat upright and the gun would not be near any moving parts and wouldnt be a nuisance whilst riding (i have carried fishing rods before, no problems) i just didnt know if the law would stop me and have anything to say if i did it??? any advice?? (other than the 'dont do it', bad idea' its stupid') IS IT LEGAL?? hopefully it will only be 1 or 2, 7-8mile trips. thanks in advance oh and by the way there is no chance of a lift unfortunatly If she pulled out in front of you and is clearly at fault, get on the phone to the insurance company and get them to provide you with a hire car. I have had two pick ups hit and managed to get a brand new disco the first time and a new pathfinder the second. I quite look forward to it, its like free test drives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heladoxa Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 unfortunately an old woman decided pulling out infront of me on a dual carriageway would be a good idea and it ended in 2 wrote off cars, i cant afford to get another until my insurance pays out which could be a while, i have 2 days shooting planned in the next 6days and the only way i can get there is motorbike or bus, i have taken guns on the bus before without any problem but i really dont like the looks i get from some people... so i am wondering if it is legal to carry my gun in its slip while on my motorbike, i know not recommended but as it is not a sportsbike i am sat upright and the gun would not be near any moving parts and wouldnt be a nuisance whilst riding (i have carried fishing rods before, no problems) i just didnt know if the law would stop me and have anything to say if i did it??? any advice?? (other than the 'dont do it', bad idea' its stupid') IS IT LEGAL?? hopefully it will only be 1 or 2, 7-8mile trips. thanks in advance oh and by the way there is no chance of a lift unfortunatly You could break the gun into its component parts and gift wrap them. Who would ever suspect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ91 Posted June 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 yes she was at fault but due to my age not many insurance companys will provide a car for me if myne gets smashed up. i am going to go with the idea of breaking it into 2 and puttin it in a hiking/camping rucksack, seems like the best idea, no1 will know that its a gun, and i should have noproblems. thanks for the sound advice guys Heladoxa - You could break the gun into its component parts and gift wrap them. Who would ever suspect? haha, true, but thers not enough hours in a day for me to do that at both ends of the journey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dempy Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 yes she was at fault but due to my age not many insurance companys will provide a car for me if myne gets smashed up. i am going to go with the idea of breaking it into 2 and puttin it in a hiking/camping rucksack, seems like the best idea, no1 will know that its a gun, and i should have noproblems. thanks for the sound advice guys Heladoxa - You could break the gun into its component parts and gift wrap them. Who would ever suspect? haha, true, but thers not enough hours in a day for me to do that at both ends of the journey Does not matter how old you are, if you were not at fault, they should provide you with a replacement car or cover any costs incurred while you do not have a car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ91 Posted June 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 Does not matter how old you are, if you were not at fault, they should provide you with a replacement car or cover any costs incurred while you do not have a car i didnt know this, thankyou for pointing it out, they have said that they will cover all costs.. hopefully it will be sorted soon!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 My mate is 74 and he has been carrying his shotgun on his motorcycle since he was 16 and never had a problem. On the rare occasions he has been stopped he's just produced his SGC and the police officers have sent him on his way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 many years ago, i used to sit on my gun when going shooting on my motor bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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