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Flapper123

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This advert is disgusting could others please contact the site administrator please. I have sent two complaints yet the add still remains.

 

http://www.freeads.co.uk/uk/leisure/sports...17-100-ono/view

 

Cheers guys

whats the problem?:/ full cheap air gun good killing rate for a very cheap £100 ps m8 some £300/400 guns dont rate

this. ps this a gun site not a fairground and win a fish in a bowl .?? if you did not like things like why did you look on it m8

:lol::lol::lol:

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chewy0013

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whats the problem?:/ full cheap air gun good killing rate for a very cheap £100 ps m8 some £300/400 guns dont rate

this. ps this a gun site not a fairground and win a fish in a bowl .?? if you did not like things like why did you look on it m8

:lol::lol::lol:

 

 

Sorry...Have you read the full add?

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fireshot

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Hi I found this this morning and it read will kill anything from cats etc , I posted on BBS and was told this is a old ad and when it first posted it said that would probly kill a small child , etc? loads of people have complained about this.

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whats the problem?:/ full cheap air gun good killing rate for a very cheap £100 ps m8 some £300/400 guns dont rate

this. ps this a gun site not a fairground and win a fish in a bowl .?? if you did not like things like why did you look on it m8

:lol::lol::lol:

 

My .22LR doesn't do 1600 fps.

 

Vigilance is key to ensuring that shooting survives in this country.

 

The person was offering a section 1 firearm for sale

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Notice the seller has added the following:

 

Ive had alot of people asking about the performance of this rifle and weather or not it requires a sect 5 firearms licence.

The simple answer is..... With PBA (performance ballistic alloy) ammunition it does 1600fps, so u wud need a licence.. however with normal led pellets it doesn't prove to be the same power. Providing you use normal ammunition you wouldn't need a licence. There are loop whole to everything ;-)

It has a different spring fitted from the original by the way.. if anyone is still confused

 

 

Section 5? Oh dear, so it's now a full auto air rifle too?

 

Now it's a long while since I did maths but I make 1600fps with a his uber gold plated stuff (5gn) about 28ft/lbs, I can't see that going up a couple of grains would bring it below 12 but hey what do I know... apart from I'd love to turn up with a chrono and say "Don't mind if I check now do you?"

 

.... add to this if a pellet can make it go over, it's FAC in the eyes of the law

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hyflier

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Thanks Colster, I just read that article and I have one or two issues with it.

 

Firstly they actually admit the loss of energy because of the lightweight pellet, ok it goes faster but is so light it can't retain the energy required in the field.

 

The chrono feet per second to energy conversion being: Velocity squared, multiplied by the pellet weight, and divided by 450240

 

Secondly they claim supersonic results. To convert feet per second to MPH, multiply the fps by 0.682 The speed of sound varies with air temperature, but will be somewhere around 720 to 740 MPH and any projectile is subjected to phenominal forces when passing through the sound barrier.

 

I've not used this airgun ammunition admittedly, but I am already sceptical of the claims :angry:

 

Now I've woken up properly, I just checked their calculations. Whether using the RWS Hobby pellets or the Gamo this air rifle was already above the legal uk limit. Using the Hobby (6.93 grains) it was putting out 15.95 ft lbs and with the Gamo pellets (5.0 grains) it increased slightly to 16.13ft lbs..... So this air weapon should never have made into the uk market at all. :no:

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johnbaz

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Thanks Colster, I just read that article and I have one or two issues with it.

 

Firstly they actually admit the loss of energy because of the lightweight pellet, ok it goes faster but is so light it can't retain the energy required in the field.

 

The chrono feet per second to energy conversion being: Velocity squared, multiplied by the pellet weight, and divided by 450240

 

Secondly they claim supersonic results. To convert feet per second to MPH, multiply the fps by 0.682 The speed of sound varies with air temperature, but will be somewhere around 720 to 740 MPH and any projectile is subjected to phenominal forces when passing through the sound barrier.

 

I've not used this airgun ammunition admittedly, but I am already sceptical of the claims :yes:

 

Now I've woken up properly, I just checked their calculations. Whether using the RWS Hobby pellets or the Gamo this air rifle was already above the legal uk limit. Using the Hobby (6.93 grains) it was putting out 15.95 ft lbs and with the Gamo pellets (5.0 grains) it increased slightly to 16.13ft lbs..... So this air weapon should never have made into the uk market at all. :shifty:

Hello Hyflier

 

Did you get your figures the wrong way round or am i mis-reading something??

 

Surely a pellet of 6.93gns will give a larger Muzzle energy than a pellet of 5.0gns travelling at the same velocity?? :shifty:

 

As i said, i may have missed something and if i have, i promise to stand in the corner with my pointy hat (with a large letter D on!!) for one hour whilst sucking my thumb!! :sneaky2:

 

 

 

Cheers, John :lol:

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For Mungler :

 

Cost: £ 100 or reasonable offerLocation: Ilford

This is a very powerful Air powered sniper rifle. It fires 4.5mm rounds (pelet) at around 1600 fps (feet per second) It will kill anything from rabbits, pidgeons, rats and anything else so long as you hit it in the right place.. This rifle was imported from spain as they are not sold in UK due to the power..

 

It comes with a original Gamo scope 3 - 9 x 40

The scope has all the right features a good scope should have.

Windage (adjustable) Pitch (adjustable) lens covers. 3 - 9 zoom.

 

This rifle has had about 300 rounds through it. It's in very good condition and will come with PBA ammo ( performance ballistic alloy )

 

I also have a co2 gas powered semi automatic 8 shot pistol (glock)

Just get in touch for more info.

 

Ive had alot of people asking about the performance of this rifle and weather or not it requires a sect 5 firearms licence.

The simple answer is..... With PBA (performance ballistic alloy) ammunition it does 1600fps, so u wud need a licence.. however with normal led pellets it doesn't prove to be the same power. Providing you use normal ammunition you wouldn't need a licence. There are loop whole to everything ;-)

It has a different spring fitted from the original by the way.. if anyone is still confused

 

Open to realistic offers on both Rifle and pistol.

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hyflier

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Johnbaz, I PM'd you

 

Thanks for the question, and as you will see you have a valid point. I didn't post the actual recorded velocities which probably caused the confusion, but all will become clear in the PM :P

 

You won't need the dunce hat :lol:

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For Mungler :

 

Cost: £ 100 or reasonable offerLocation: Ilford

This is a very powerful Air powered sniper rifle. It fires 4.5mm rounds (pelet) at around 1600 fps (feet per second) It will kill anything from rabbits, pidgeons, rats and anything else so long as you hit it in the right place.. This rifle was imported from spain as they are not sold in UK due to the power..

 

It comes with a original Gamo scope 3 - 9 x 40

The scope has all the right features a good scope should have.

Windage (adjustable) Pitch (adjustable) lens covers. 3 - 9 zoom.

 

This rifle has had about 300 rounds through it. It's in very good condition and will come with PBA ammo ( performance ballistic alloy )

 

I also have a co2 gas powered semi automatic 8 shot pistol (glock)

Just get in touch for more info.

 

Ive had alot of people asking about the performance of this rifle and weather or not it requires a sect 5 firearms licence.

The simple answer is..... With PBA (performance ballistic alloy) ammunition it does 1600fps, so u wud need a licence.. however with normal led pellets it doesn't prove to be the same power. Providing you use normal ammunition you wouldn't need a licence. There are loop whole to everything ;-)

It has a different spring fitted from the original by the way.. if anyone is still confused

 

Open to realistic offers on both Rifle and pistol.

but the first advert was saying about shooting cats as well

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johnbaz

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Johnbaz, I PM'd you

 

Thanks for the question, and as you will see you have a valid point. I didn't post the actual recorded velocities which probably caused the confusion, but all will become clear in the PM :D

 

You won't need the dunce hat :good:

 

 

Ah cheers Hyflier- i get confused in me old age :lol: :blink:

 

 

Thanks, John :)

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