Hatsan Escort P*****g me off

[MC]

not really, if its not designed for 67mm carts then its not designed for them, seemples

 

 

So you are telling me that you only use the same cartridges as the length of your guns chambers do you?

 

Waht absolute bollix, A gun should work with all cartridges not just a handful of hand picked ones. And the reputable brands do, it is the junk that doesn't.

[MC]

wish youd seen my old montefeltro, it turned from a semi auto into a straightpull on anything under 32g 6!

 

 

That is rubbish as well,

 

You can have different length cartridges which are more or less than 32gr and the shot size is irrelevant

[al4x]

My Beretta semi never lets me down- I think the key is to keep semi auto's clean - all the time- irrespective of make

 

Les

 

 

sort of, I've an ancient browning semi I clean once in a while but can be anually and failed to fire once when it got filled with dust and chaff while standing on a combine. Fires anything I put in it unlike the hatstands, the 3.5 refers to the maximum length not what you have to use to make it work or at least thats how its meant to work

[TJ91]

"""So you are telling me that you only use the same cartridges as the length of your guns chambers do you?

 

Waht absolute bollix, A gun should work with all cartridges not just a handful of hand picked ones. And the reputable brands do, it is the junk that doesn't. """

 

they do say that you should use atleast 70mm carts or they will have problems recycling.

 

you get what you pay for, you simply cannot compare an escort to a benelli, berretta etc

 

its like comparing your 2 sub imprezas...

 

65mm cartridge is your unleaded

70mm cartridge is your superunleaded

 

its always going to perform better with the super unleaded (70mm cartridge) as that is the way it was designed and made

 

the companys that make and import these guns/cars tell the customers

 

(sorry for the **** example but it does make sense to me!)

 

junk to you maybe gold to someone else, not everyone can afford these amzing new technological guns and equipment so the get what they can

 

whats the big deal anyway between 65mm and 70mm cartridges...it fires and ejects 70mm, there are plenty of loads oput there for all types of quarry in 70mm and they arent anymore expensive

Edited September 2, 2010 by TJ91

[MC]

So are you saying that you always run your impreza on super unleaded? Would you use regular unleaded if your car stopped working everytinme you used it? But surely you would expect it to run on regular wouldn't you?

 

If all the people who had jams used 70mm cartridges then problem solved, but it isn't. Any gun that doesn't work is junk to me, there is no point in trying to pretty it up. It is not about being able to afford a better gun.

 

I would have had a hatstand if they were long enough in the stock but they weren't. I bought a Baikal MP153 instead and it jammed up all the time. I eventually got my cash back and bought a Beretta.

 

I have not looked back since.

[TJ91]

i wouldnt get rid just because it didnt like 1 or the other

 

just as the escort doesnt recycle 65mm...so just get 70mm, it obviously isnt junk and does work as it recycles 70mm fine

[TJ91]

So are you saying that you always run your impreza on super unleaded? Would you use regular unleaded if your car stopped working everytinme you used it? But surely you would expect it to run on regular wouldn't you?

 

If all the people who had jams used 70mm cartridges then problem solved, but it isn't. Any gun that doesn't work is junk to me, there is no point in trying to pretty it up. It is not about being able to afford a better gun.

 

I would have had a hatstand if they were long enough in the stock but they weren't. I bought a Baikal MP153 instead and it jammed up all the time. I eventually got my cash back and bought a Beretta.

 

I have not looked back since.

 

yes i would it expect it too..(they do) but if they tole me use this not this then i would do that, being that they know what the item you are buying can and cant do and how to get the best out of it

 

yes, not everyone owning escorts uses 70mm...more fool them, they are the 1s that suffer not me or you

Edited September 2, 2010 by TJ91

[poorpeet]

The shops said it's not right and will get it sorted so wait & see what it's like then.

Mines been spot on, never jammed or had a mis-fire, happy with 65mm 21g carts both new and homeloaded and anything else thats been put through it.

My brother in laws had a Franchi Raptor and now has an A400. Apart from being lighter than the Hatsan, and in the case of the A400 less barrel heavy, they are no better to shoot with (in my opinion).

My Hatsan cost me £275 at 4 months old and has given 2 years fault free service so far. An A400 is £1300 ish new and £800-£900+ s/h.

If the Hatsan fell apart tomorrow I'd buy another quite happily.

[retromlc]

his Hatsan hasn't failed once,

pete ur decoys arrive tomorrow

[shoughton]

The shops said it's not right and will get it sorted so wait & see what it's like then.

Mines been spot on, never jammed or had a mis-fire, happy with 65mm 21g carts both new and homeloaded and anything else thats been put through it.

My brother in laws had a Franchi Raptor and now has an A400. Apart from being lighter than the Hatsan, and in the case of the A400 less barrel heavy, they are no better to shoot with (in my opinion).

My Hatsan cost me £275 at 4 months old and has given 2 years fault free service so far. An A400 is £1300 ish new and £800-£900+ s/h.

If the Hatsan fell apart tomorrow I'd buy another quite happily.

 

Spot on. our Escort cost us £200 at 6 months old and hadn't really been used. We were even cycling 24g cartridges through it last week without a single jam! The one and only issue I noticed at the start was the choke working a little loose - but since tightening properly it has never happened again.

 

I'll be really interested to hear how you get on when your gun is returned. Hope you don't wait too long - I suspect they'll turn it around quickly.

 

Steve

[gentlemanthug]

Beretta urika,shot a few 1000 in mine never had a jam,i do keep it spotlessly clean though

 

I had a similar problem with my Winchester. I found that although the gun was clean the gas valve and magazine chamber were both filthy after I stripped them right down. A little drop of oil and all has been fine since.

[MITCHF]

So are you saying that you always run your impreza on super unleaded? Would you use regular unleaded if your car stopped working everytinme you used it? But surely you would expect it to run on regular wouldn't you?

 

If all the people who had jams used 70mm cartridges then problem solved, but it isn't. Any gun that doesn't work is junk to me, there is no point in trying to pretty it up. It is not about being able to afford a better gun.

 

I would have had a hatstand if they were long enough in the stock but they weren't. I bought a Baikal MP153 instead and it jammed up all the time. I eventually got my cash back and bought a Beretta.

 

I have not looked back since.

 

 

Jeeesus!!, the Hatsan comes with "4" spacers for the stock, what are you ?........an Orangatang

[2sledge]

just been reading all the **** about the hatsan i have berrettas 301 and 303 autos both do the job they are surposed to. the hatsan is 3.5 inch no probs with any make or size down to 28 g was advized when new to put a box of heavy carts in it to bed it in why who knows but hay it worked only ev .er had the odd jam same as with the 303 and the hatsan as been well abused i/e droped in mud washed of in the river and carry on shooting even dropped it in sand washed of in the sea and carry on just keep the ports clean and well oiled

[Harnser]

The hatstand is a cheap (and nasty ) gun that seems to have a following amongest shooters in this country . My opinion with these guns is that there is proberbly very little or no quality control at the factory. You have shooters on here who rate them highly and others that carnt get rid of them quick enough . This indifference in performances stinks of very poor quality control ,if some can work properply then the rest should as well . I wouldnt touch one of these guns with the proverbial barg pool . Are they really cheap ? not if you are worrying each time you shoot that the choke isnt going to blow out of the gun or is it going to cycle properply . I prefer a more reliable gun ,one I dont have to worry whether or not its going to cycle or worry that the choke is going to get gas behind it because of poorly cut threads to choke and barrel .

 

Harnser .

[MITCHF]

The hatstand is a cheap (and nasty ) gun that seems to have a following amongest shooters in this country . My opinion with these guns is that there is proberbly very little or no quality control at the factory. You have shooters on here who rate them highly and others that carnt get rid of them quick enough . This indifference in performances stinks of very poor quality control ,if some can work properply then the rest should as well . I wouldnt touch one of these guns with the proverbial barg pool . Are they really cheap ? not if you are worrying each time you shoot that the choke isnt going to blow out of the gun or is it going to cycle properply . I prefer a more reliable gun ,one I dont have to worry whether or not its going to cycle or worry that the choke is going to get gas behind it because of poorly cut threads to choke and barrel .

 

Harnser .

 

 

Well said Harnser.

You might want to quality control your "spell check"

Edited September 4, 2010 by MITCHF

[Harnser]

Well said Harnser.

You might want to quality control your "spell check"

knot spelan misterks , tipen erers .

Harnser .