markbivvy Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 (edited) got a chance to try out mr coopers mk 2 speed controller today, there good, look the part,and work a dream. Edited February 5, 2006 by markbivvy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 Mark, How much? and how do you get hold of one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted January 31, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 Mark, How much? and how do you get hold of one? hi Stuart. magtame on ebay, £15 inc p,p. or from tony cooper i will pm you his email. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 Cheers, ears... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirky640 Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 un neaded exspence sorry lads but if u think the speed makes a difference you are as daft as i look!! :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted January 31, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 un kneaded exspence sorry lads but if u think the speed makes a difference you are as daft as i look!! :( hi kirky dont know if you have used one, but if not how do you know.? they say repartition is the easy est way to train a animal. you dont have to use but what if you want to ,but dont have one. just interested mate. not a dig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Beasley Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 un neaded exspence sorry lads but if u think the speed makes a difference you are as daft as i look!! :( Kirky: Complete cack. I've seen countless days where the speed of rotation has affected the pulling power of a Magnet, and having spoken to many other professionals about it they all concurred that the speed of rotation does make a difference under certain conditions. Perhaps you are as daft as you look!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirky640 Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 (edited) is that rite!!!!! well i go shooting with mine with the wire on fast spead and off it gose like the clappers. so will how many slow pigeons do u see in a smart windy day none anyway its not all down to the magnet its field craft on the day its not something u can learn over night but a field of information gathered over a number of years. ps my grandad used small lenths of grey guttering to decoy the blue birds and seemed to work well. was thinking of trying it my self just to see if they are still as easy conned. speed control ha ha ha Edited February 1, 2006 by kirky640 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilbe2 Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 un neaded exspence sorry lads but if u think the speed makes a difference you are as daft as i look!! i slowed mine down using a dimmer switch from the scrap yard and it made a lot of difference!....quick get to a mirrow!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirky640 Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 un neaded exspence sorry lads but if u think the speed makes a difference you are as daft as i look!! i slowed mine down using a dimmer switch from the scrap yard and it made a lot of difference!....quick get to a mirrow!! mirrow ?? i know i cant spell iether B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilbe2 Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 thats how you spell it aint it? :*) mirrow...mirror, arghhhh who cares! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 Faster the wind is the faster your rotor should be!!!! Been there and done it. LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonno 357 Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 Tony Cooper has stopped selling to me . :thumbs: Won't even reply to my emails Anyway his new product looks **** but not as ****e as the brown jobby he made ealier. A very poor Pulse Width Modulator Jonno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirky640 Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 un neaded exspence sorry lads but if u think the speed makes a difference you are as daft as i look!! :thumbs: Kirky: Complete cack. I've seen countless days where the speed of rotation has affected the pulling power of a Magnet, and having spoken to many other professionals about it they all concurred that the speed of rotation does make a difference under certain conditions. Perhaps you are as daft as you look!! you dont happen to sell them do you ?? ha ha just alittle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 Tony Cooper has stopped selling to me . :thumbs: Won't even reply to my emails Anyway his new product looks **** but not as ****e as the brown jobby he made ealier. A very poor Pulse Width Modulator Jonno Mine arrived in the post this morning, it looks the dogs, I won't have chance to test it for while though, I will report back when I have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catamong Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 Kirky's earlier point about speed controllers being a waste of money is spot on, IMHO. Many's the time I've watched other people's short armed "Magnets" spinning so slowly, at a speed no self respecting woodie could ever stay airborne at, and they wonder why the birds are "Magnet Shy..!!". The faster the better, I reckon. Speed controllers are a bit like Pigeon Whistles, Snap Caps and Pop Up Hides - great for conning the shooter, but of absolutely no value in the field. I once watched Jim Albone and 3 "Guests" shooting a field of swathed rape near to my patch. The weather in early July was overcast and muggy with a gentle S.W. breeze. Each of the 3 hides had TWO "magnets" about 20 yards downwind of the hide, on either side of the "killing zone", the magnet arms were about 8 feet long, and those birds were spinning so fast, you could hardly tell that they were woodies..!! Absolutely no question about controlling their speed..!! My mate helped them pick up at the end of the day, and apart from Jim, they were muppett shooters, yet they still managed to collect 660 birds off that field. Cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Beasley Posted February 4, 2006 Report Share Posted February 4, 2006 Kirky's earlier point about speed controllers being a waste of money is spot on, IMHO. Many's the time I've watched other people's short armed "Magnets" spinning so slowly, at a speed no self respecting woodie could ever stay airborne at, and they wonder why the birds are "Magnet Shy..!!". Well I still disagree with both of you, even though you seem keen to portray us guys that sell decoy gear as hell bent to rook you guys for all your worth. We have a lot more respect than that, trust me. Just telling it like it is, always have always will. Cat makes a good point about peoples machines spinning SO slowly that it would be impossible for a pigeon to stay airborne, and in reality the range of speed adjustment I have found to be effective is only from 30-40 RPM but I HAVE found without any doubt that RPM control does make a difference. Anyway each to their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirky640 Posted February 4, 2006 Report Share Posted February 4, 2006 will im not against you guys i only think speed of a magnet should always be full speed to show good will im after 12 high detail shell decoys how much can you do these for so i can compare prices with others thanks kirky :thumbs: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted February 4, 2006 Report Share Posted February 4, 2006 kirky, its best if you PM Will to get this sort of information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted February 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2006 machines spinning SO slowly that it would be impossible for a pigeon to stay airborne, can someone clear this bit up for me. are some people saying that incomings pigeons know that the decs on the rotor are going to slow to be airborne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catamong Posted February 5, 2006 Report Share Posted February 5, 2006 machines spinning SO slowly that it would be impossible for a pigeon to stay airborne, can someone clear this bit up for me. are some people saying that incomings pigeons know that the decs on the rotor are going to slow to be airborne. I'm saying that a very slow spin speed on a short armed rotary does not attract as many birds as a faster spin speed on a longer armed rotary. That's what I've found, others will disagree. Cat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackthorn Posted February 5, 2006 Report Share Posted February 5, 2006 my arms are that long we all fear going out there fear of decapitation, i will still use my speed controller. i haven't got the luxury that i can shoot every day, i work my balls of through the week, its the week ends that i shoot and not every one of them due to work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 I'm saying that a very slow spin speed on a short armed rotary does not attract as many birds as a faster spin speed on a longer armed rotary. That's what I've found, others will disagree. Cat Cat, What length arms do you call short and what length do you call long? Are we talking bought or made rotaries? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M ROBSON Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 Kirky, un neaded exspence sorry lads but if u think the speed makes a difference you are as daft as i look!! The big difference between you and these guys down south is that you will never come across magnet shy Pigeons where you live, there simply isn't enough people using magnets up here to make them shy. Down south every man and his dog is out with a magnet! that's why they have different findings to you. I can count on one hand the number of times in the last 10 years I've been out and come accross another Pigeon shooter. Cheers, Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirky640 Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 m robson thanks for youre post i never thought of it that way but it makes perfect sence thank you cheers kirky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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