gwb Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 guys Im looking for some tips on shooting very close and fast targets sometimes with small windows of opportunity. Rabbits especially, I am trying not to shoot over the top but I think I may be be rushing my swing. My scores are suffering because of this. Any tips on how you shoot these Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 I bet you're over-leading them. Because they look fast, a lot of people give them shedloads of lead, whereas they're often so close that they don't need any, just shoot at the front edge. You almost invariably have more time than you think as well, so you need to try and slow down if you're rushing the swing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J@mes Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 I find that with targets like these that it is best to be totally relaxed and try not to think about it too much. Let instinct take over! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 Rabbits especially, Any tips on how you shoot these Put a lettuce out for them, when they stop for a nibble.........blast them (Not sure if this method can be used in registered shoots though) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 Put a lettuce out for them, when they stop for a nibble.........blast them (Not sure if this method can be used in registered shoots though) COCK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian E Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 Rabbits, shoot at there feet - the base of the clay and use at least a 7 1/2's thru 1/4 choke on close stuff - Rabbit clays are really tuff so need a good whack to break The only time you would shoot at the top of a rabbit would be if it's going straight away from you, from between your legs if you can imagine that, so all you can see is the edge of the clay, that way the clay runs into the shot In the summer when the ground is dryer you should be able to see were your missing as the shot will throw up some dust, but as Chard says they don't tend to need a lot of lead, if you can wait for them to slow right down.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicky T Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 (edited) Are you shooting these gun up or gun down? If it's the latter then go for a minimal amount of movement in the mount and that will give you extra time to tale the shot Edited January 22, 2011 by Nicky T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 Ambush it Pick it up with your eyes not the gun or you will swing in front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sipe-ist Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 You are probably mounting your gun too close to the point of release, which usually makes you swing very fast to overtake the target. Thrashing the gun through at high speed loses some control making consistency difficult. Try holding your gun half way between picking up point and where you want to kill it, in this way you will have a much more controlled swing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwb Posted January 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 Thanks all I shoot gun down the targets are very close starting about 20ft away and moving rapid I believe I was rushing as there seemed to be no control in my swing and I couldnt see a lead picture at that range im not sure how much lead, im sure I would have to give it some because of the speed in hindsight i may be shooting over the top and worried that its going to beat me i was heading for a 40 out of 50 until this particular stand and shot a 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boondock Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 Just a general observation for those who struggle with rabbits. If when you shoot, the clay appears to be surounded by dust, muck, **** and fag ends thrown up by the shot then you are in front of it and need to cut back the lead. If there is none then you are too high. Cheers Boondock Bidwell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twitchynik Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 Rabbits, shoot at there feet - the base of the clay and use at least a 7 1/2's thru 1/4 choke on close stuff - Rabbit clays are really tuff so need a good whack to break Word. We saw one the other weekend that had 3 shot holes though it but was unbroken Def shoot slightly below the ******* and cross your fingers it doen't bounce up Still a fun target to shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southrop Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 At 20 feet away shoot straight at a rabbit or back edge. They appear fast but nowhere near as fast as your shot string. (400 metres per sec) if they bounce, great they are even slower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southrop Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 At 20 feet away shoot straight at a rabbit or back edge. They appear fast but nowhere near as fast as your shot string. (400 metres per sec) if they bounce, great they are even slower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Elvis Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 Even if they are close, i would always shoot the front edge, chances are back edge youre going to miss behind.If they are that close shoot gun up, gives you a bit more time for your brain to react. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattr Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 I recently read Breaking Clays by Chris Batha - who suggested shooting at the ground 'just in front' of a rabbit... based on two things: 1. A good proportion of your shot pattern is above center 2. A fair amount of shot can bounce off hard/frozen ground to increase your chances Not sure it's helped my poor scores much :-) but might be worth trying. MattR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicky T Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 Thanks all I shoot gun down the targets are very close starting about 20ft away and moving rapid I believe I was rushing as there seemed to be no control in my swing and I couldnt see a lead picture at that range im not sure how much lead, im sure I would have to give it some because of the speed in hindsight i may be shooting over the top and worried that its going to beat me i was heading for a 40 out of 50 until this particular stand and shot a 2 I think that you can make things simple for yourself here in that what you need to do is dependant on how the rabbit is presented: - If quartering away; shoot at the back edge of it - If crossing; you will need to shoot infront of it, at ground level. Personally I use maintained lead on this type of presentation. The best advice IMO is to get out there and practise some, trying different methods and varying your forward allowance accordingly until you feel comfortable with Rabbits at various distances. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwb Posted February 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 Thanks all Trouble is I dont get to go anywhere to practice as the ground near me doesnt have a rabbit trap so I only come across them in comps I suppose the other fast close targets can be ptacticed on a skeet layout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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