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It looks like I am probably going to go for the semi auto as my first gun. I was toying with getting a cheap O&U but I'd only want to change it within a few months anyway and add a semi to the collection later for pigeon shooting. as cash is tight at the moment I could see me being stuck with a O&U I didn't really like and no money to upgrade or buy a semi auto.

This way I get the semi auto now and add the O&U when funds allow.

 

So back to my opening question, Has anyone got one of these Armsan a612's yet or even tried one?

 

I think they look good and the press seem to rate them.

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I've seen a few on guntrader for a reasonable price but i have no idea on how good they are.

 

Literary you are in the same boat as me as i was given a O/U at christmas by my dad eventhough i wanted a Semi, so 2 weeks ago i went and bought a second hand escort magnum for a very reasonable price and it works like a dream ;) ;) ;)

 

Personally if i was you i'd go for a Escort Magnum or go for a decent second hand semi auto. Personally i dont see anything wrong with the escort's, but many on here say otherwise, mine hasnt missed a beat and i love it. :good:

 

There's a nice berretta on guntrader for £350, i think the person selling it is a member on here. Beretta 303

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Armsan a cheap Turkish gun like the hatsan still think an O/U is a better first gun, one extra shot but more potential hassle. Pigeons Dont mind if yur shooting a semi, O/U or SxS while plenty of people shoot semi's for pigeon plenty shoot double barrels too (for good reason)

 

I think Armsan make the W&S semi's Possibly the Midland branded ones....

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Hatsan are no competition for the Armsan, Armsan have superior build quality, styling and engineering. I know from owning both...hence tosay my hatsan has not seen anything other than the inside of my cabinet for 6 months.

 

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Hatsan are no competition for the Armsan, Armsan have superior build quality, styling and engineering. I know from owning both...hence tosay my hatsan has not seen anything other than the inside of my cabinet for 6 months. buy an ARMSAN 612 as it wont let you down and shoots allday ebveryday :yes:

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Saw one today at euroguns.... Looked a right dogs dinner, couldn't decide if it was an attempt at fake carbon weave or just a mess of silver and black strands... Was in the same rack as the Hatsans.

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Saw one today at euroguns.... Looked a right dogs dinner, couldn't decide if it was an attempt at fake carbon weave or just a mess of silver and black strands... Was in the same rack as the Hatsans.

I've not seen that one, the black synthetic looks good and the standard wood looks ok too.

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I've gone and done it. I've just ordered the a612 w today with a 28" barrel. I'll share where

I've got it from once I've collected it as the price they have charged is a fair bit cheaper than I've seen on the web, so cheap I think they have cocked up and fully expect the "sorry, we got the price wrong" when I collect it. :yahoo:

Dead exited, can't wait to pick it up.

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I've gone and done it. I've just ordered the a612 w today with a 28" barrel. I'll share where

I've got it from once I've collected it as the price they have charged is a fair bit cheaper than I've seen on the web, so cheap I think they have cocked up and fully expect the "sorry, we got the price wrong" when I collect it. :yahoo:

Dead exited, can't wait to pick it up.

 

 

good luck with getting it, hope you enjoy it :good:

 

ATB figgy

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Have fun with it, sure it'll be good...

Please note it's the 'W' not the nasty 'F'. I saw that thing in euro guns the other day, it was an Arm somthing but I don't think it was an Armsan. possibly the worst gun I've ever seen.

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I've just been doing a bit of searching on the internet for these Armsans (even tho I've ordered one anyway) and found that they have been making these in a 20 guage (a620 s)for years for Mossberg to sell as the SA20.

 

And here's me thinking there all new. :lol:

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I've picked up my new a612 w from Nevilles at Alfretton and can't wait to get out and shoot it. I've paid £440 for it (bargain) The wood is quite plain, as you'd expect from a gun at this price and finished with a satin varnish (which I've managed to chip putting the fore end back on before even shooting it . We'll come back to that).

 

In the box came a set of internal chokes (full, modified and cylinder), a box and key for the chokes and a set of shims to alter the stock.

 

All in all I'm really happy with what I've got for the money (if not a bit p1ssed off with myself for chipping the varnish). We'll see if I can hit anything with it tomorrow on the clay groung.

 

Looks like I'll be trying to strip and oil the stock earlier than anticipated. Does anyone on here know what it would cost me to have it done rather than me taking the usual 6 months to finish any job I'm not getting paid for?

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Been and shot 2 rounds of English Sporting at Cockett Farm today and the A612 seems good. It didn't skip a beat, is easy to load but kicks a bit more than I expected but I'm comparing shooting 28g carts thro it to shooting 21g carts thro club O/U brownings and Mirokus. I didn't notice until I got back in the car but it doesn't smack me in the face like the borrowed Browning did.

 

As I've mentioned in another post, I've chipped the laqured finish on the fore end, before I even got to shoot it. I've sent an e-mail to Viking, who import these guns with the intent of buying their cheapest stock, fore end combo so I can carry on shooting it while I attempt to strip and oil woodwork.

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I too am looking for a semi, cant decide whether to go for a cheap new Hatsan or Armsan or to buy 2nd hand, would love to have a 2nd browning to match my browning o/u, like the look of the SX3, have heard I might be better off with a 2nd hand Beratta 301.303.303.390 or 391 than a new Hatsan or a n other. I have only £350-400 tops to spend at the moment, but need something that cycles 21g loads so Mrs can use it as well as me with 32g loads in it.

What do you think of the 612, and have you tried 21g loads in it, any problems to report about it as yet ?

Cheers Schmoo.

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I too am looking for a semi, cant decide whether to go for a cheap new Hatsan or Armsan or to buy 2nd hand, would love to have a 2nd browning to match my browning o/u, like the look of the SX3, have heard I might be better off with a 2nd hand Beratta 301.303.303.390 or 391 than a new Hatsan or a n other. I have only £350-400 tops to spend at the moment, but need something that cycles 21g loads so Mrs can use it as well as me with 32g loads in it.

What do you think of the 612, and have you tried 21g loads in it, any problems to report about it as yet ?

Cheers Schmoo.

 

Hi Schmoo,

 

the Armsan has been good, I've put about 500 28g carts thro it and I've tried it with some 24g steel shot catrs that a couple of people I've shot with use. They are supposed to be cheap (but I can get 28g lead carts from Nevilles for less than the Steel ones from the club)and they cycled fine. I haven't tried anything lighter.

All in all I would reccomend the gun and my scores get better every time I use it.

Shame you're not closer, you could have had a play at the weekend.

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Hi Schmoo,

 

the Armsan has been good, I've put about 500 28g carts thro it and I've tried it with some 24g steel shot catrs that a couple of people I've shot with use. They are supposed to be cheap (but I can get 28g lead carts from Nevilles for less than the Steel ones from the club)and they cycled fine. I haven't tried anything lighter.

All in all I would reccomend the gun and my scores get better every time I use it.

Shame you're not closer, you could have had a play at the weekend.

Thanks for your kind offer, **** law I am this far away but hey ho, such is life.

Did viking give you a price for a new stock and forend, do you get the impression we could get spare parts if and when needed ?

What is included when the gun arrives ( case, chokes etc etc ) ?

What sort of guarantee does the gun come with and what sort of customer support from viking or armsan is there ?

Have you cleaned it inside yet and was it all that hard to do ?

I want one, I love the look of it.

Do you fancy doing a road test for me and seeing how it does handle 21g loads, next time your out ?

Thanks Schmoo

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Thanks for your kind offer, **** law I am this far away but hey ho, such is life.

Did viking give you a price for a new stock and forend, Yes, £120 for a new forend and stock in either standard wood or synthetic do you get the impression we could get spare parts if and when needed ? Parts seem readily availableWhat is included when the gun arrives ( case, chokes etc etc ) ?It came in a cardboard box but had a set of 3 chokes and a key in a plastic case and a set of spacers for adjusting the stock.What sort of guarantee does the gun come with and what sort of customer support from viking or armsan is there ? 3 year guarantee and Viking got the gun out to Nevilles within a couple of days. As for customer service I've yet to find out.Have you cleaned it inside yet and was it all that hard to do ?I clean it every time I use it (even tho it did take me a day or two to get round to it last week)and its a doddle.I want one, I love the look of it.

Do you fancy doing a road test for me and seeing how it does handle 21g loads, next time your out ?I'll give it a go, I'll get a box of 21g s the next time I go to buy carts and let you know how I get on.Thanks Schmoo

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Thanks for the info Sco77w. It's really appreciated.

I am off to view one this wekend and try it on for size.

Thanks again Schmoo.

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Sco77w did you manage to get any 21g thru her this weekend ?

I went and smashed some even in the rain we had, was nice to watch the water jump off the barrels when the trigger was pulled. :lol:

Schmoo.

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the Armsan to me seems like a better quality of gun than the Hatsans, althouh i havent shot one i did see one in my local rfd and was able to swing, it gave me the impression of being quite well built and was more asthetically plesaning than the Hatsans.

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