CZ550Kevlar Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Following on from my previous post about my broken fuel line the garage has called and given me the bad news, the whole fuel pipe system is rotten, this includes the bit from the fuel tank to the filter then down to the engine then the return which is 6 metres of fuel pipe overall at £24.10 a metre and been quoted 5 hours of labour which comes to £478.57 inclusding the VAT, also the brake pipes are shot and quoted another £300 to replace them. Given that the car is only worth probably £800 - £1000 what would you guys do and does anyone have any suggestions??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 ebay it as a non runner if you can't do the work yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
point and shoot Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Prices quoted WAY OVER THE ODDS! Try somewhere else! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 I replaced the fuel lines on mine for a couple of quid (though not the metal ones).. I'd find a mechanic who like shooting and barter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 I replaced the fuel lines on mine for a couple of quid (though not the metal ones).. I'd find a mechanic who like shooting and barter +1! you will get fuel pipes and brakes done a lot cheaper than what they have quoted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 the problem you have is it may necessitate dropping the tank etc and everything you touch will be rusted to hell so the mechanic knows it could be a proper a hole of a job so they quote a reasonable amount for it. I have to say I'd not want to do it for anyone if its that bad as you will encounter a lot of extra problems along the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDK Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 i'd try find a **** yard and canablise one in there? 24.10 a meter bet it aint much more for a reel of pipe ask aroud for machanics that work on side! prolly get you the pipe at cost and a little fee or favour?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ550Kevlar Posted March 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Well it gets worse and worse, i gave the go ahead for the fuel line to be done so i can get it on the road then will put it up for sale as the brake lines will pass MOT but anymore off road use will worsen them too quickly and they will fail inspection. I then get a call back from the garage telling me he put the order in with Vauxhall as the fuel lines are main dealer part only and my vehicle needs two different sizes, not so tricky you may think, think again i say as Vauxhall only supply the fuel line by the roll, ALL 10 METRES OF IT PER SIZE!!! so that`s £500 just for 6 metres of fuel line to do the job and 14 metres left over. He has suggested a plan "B", what that entails i have no idea but more news tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silpig5 Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 they are talking out of there behind , fuel pipe can be bought from a motor factors at a fraction of that price . failing that use braided rubber . i sell 3/8 fuel rubber fuel line at 2.08 mtr ! if you can get to fuel sender , do it all in rbber to first join of the steel pipe . the same with the return . im sorry to say they are trying to lift your leg abit . find a small garage who will be glad of the work . shame you are so far away . adi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Have a look on 'muddy fronteras' forum,they will soon put you right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge911 Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 got to agree does seem a tad steep/strange personally i cant see why they cant do what i done to the shogun that had metal pipes of different sizes all i did was go as close to the tank as poss cut both pipes then go to the front and cut them at the bulkhead [never known metal pipes rot in the engine bay] get rubber fuel hose thats a nice fit over the metal ones secure with 2 jubilee clips at each end then secure to chassis with large wide cable ties total cost was £23 AND ABOUT AN HOUR TO SORT . no wonder garages get a bad rep when they try to have your pants down like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Just had quick look on e-bay and braided fuel line £13.50 posted and fuel clips £5 posted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ550Kevlar Posted March 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 apparently because it is petrol and under pressure they can`t use rubber hose as it would fail the MOT, show me a bridge or a tunnel and i can tell you the ins and outs of a ducks **** but where things like this are concerned i`m kind of at the mercy of a mechanic. I spoke to another mechanic in chartham hatch who specialises in 4 x 4`s and he quoted the same ammount of hours and quoted using copper pipe, he still came out at £380 only because he isn`t VAT registered so wouldn`t pay VAT on the labour. Will just have to see what they say tomorrow, but this is looking like a nightmare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge911 Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 (edited) wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you can get high pressure rubber fuel line and as for failing the mot WOT A LOAD OF TOSH . as long as they are secure enough dont hang down fowl on moving parts and dont leak they cant fail the mot there is nothing in regs to say so .rubber fuel lines are unacceptable!!!! yes i know this as fact i,m a mot tester and have been for over 15 yr if they are an mot garage ask them to show you the relevent section in the testers manual where it says fuel lines must be metal Edited March 24, 2011 by hodge911 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ550Kevlar Posted March 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 This gets more and more interesting, i really think they are trying to shaft me now, i`ll suggest to them using high pressure rubber fuel line rather than metal tubing. they are quoting 5 hours labour as they say to get the pipe in they have to remove the fuel tank and the line has to go around obstructions but surely with rubber hose it is flexible and can just be bent and pushed wherever it needs to go rather than removing the obstacles it can be pushed round them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discodog Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 I used 10 mm copper tube from plumber supplies to do the same job, passed all mots with it no worrys, there takeing the p**s !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 I used 10 mm copper tube from plumber supplies to do the same job, passed all mots with it no worrys, there takeing the p**s !!!! oh dear sounds like one of the worse ideas going, simply a garage has a duty of care and professional standards to stick to hence most won't do complete bodges, people tend to sue them if they do. A few of the ideas here may work but the manufacturer didn't run the fuel lines entirely in flexible pipe for a reason, or indeed in copper water pipe. That said to get it going and flog it flexible pipes run directly from the tank may work just watch for where they can rub and make sure they are well secured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 but the manufacturer didn't run the fuel lines entirely in flexible pipe for a reason,or indeed copper water pipe Yes its to do with price-copper is more expensive than mild steel. I used to be in the motor trade and have made umpteenth brake and fuel lines out of copper.Cunifer is the most popular brand stocked by motorfactors/garages and is easily worked with. As for flexible rubber fuel hoses.Yes,used to sell reels of the stuff.You have two different sorts-one for low pressure carburettors and braided rubber for high pressure fuel injection.If it were my car i'd make the fuel/brake lines out of Cunifer purely because its very easy to flex round corners etc. I must add though that you shouldnt use clear braided hose as it cannot withstand petrol or diesel and will go yellow first then crack/split after time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 bet you didn't nip down to plumb base for the copper though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ550Kevlar Posted March 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 They have made a repair on the leaking section and that cost me £110 all in, i have decided to sell the car as soon as i collect it from the garage either by trade in or private sale, it is fine for road use but off road use is going to make the damage go pear shaped even faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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