Vince Green Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 (edited) it actually does but again depending on what country your in,all exapanding bullet heads should be registered on your FAC,in Notts the gun shops dont right them on in derbyshire they do,again a grey area,if you do reload and dont show any ammo on your ticket you could have it removed I know, silly isn't it? Plus there are the shooters that buy their expanding bullets from abroad mail order, because that supposedly is still legal. well the law doesn't actually say you can't. Another grey area. All the law says is that UK dealers can't sell by mail order. Its all so messy. Edited April 3, 2011 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy Holt Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 Hiya, If you reloaded it wouldn't show on your certificate. I do and all the heads (always expanding) I've bought have been logged on my ticket by the RFD, when I got the ammo allowance changed to allow me to home load I was advised by the Fire arms dept to keep a log of when and what I loaded as a backup paper trail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 (edited) Hiya, I do and all the heads (always expanding) I've bought have been logged on my ticket by the RFD, when I got the ammo allowance changed to allow me to home load I was advised by the Fire arms dept to keep a log of when and what I loaded as a backup paper trail. I reloaded for years and always kept receipts for everything but nobody has ever asked me. plus I buy all my rifle ammo at Bisley and I don't get most of it entered on my certificate because they don't need to. The point is its smart to keep a record, I am just uncomfortable about the fact that things move gradually toward "have to". I don't see that in the original requirements for expanding ammunition it ever said that expanding bullets had to be logged on your FAC or that there was ever a stated requirement that you couldn't buy more than your ammo holding limit. But thats what it has become, and everybody just accepted it without question. I can buy 500, 5000, or more FMJ bullets without even a licence. Keep them where I like, do you not think if a terrorist or a nut case wanted to get ammunition having to have a expanding bullets added to his FAC would stop him. I have heard of other police forces trying to do the same with primers although that was jumped on. The key question is this, is there a real problem here that these sort of measures will address? Or is it just petty minded jobsworths getting more and more pedantic making up rules about rules where there are no need for them. Edited April 3, 2011 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bongo321 Posted April 4, 2011 Report Share Posted April 4, 2011 60 I could do with them added to my cert I am recording every shot to get my 243 open certificate so it saves me buying 60 bullets Sounds alot of hassle and possible heartache for 60 rounds and +/- 60 aint going to get you an open ticket , but you could get yourself a name of been a frequent caller/pest, so detremental to getting it.,imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted April 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2011 No 60 rounds alone won't but its another 60 that I don't have to buy and save a bit of brass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verminator 66 Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 how can someone else right them on mate ?? where do they say they got them from as i have said right them on yourself and tell your FEO where they came from,it dont get any easier than that that was the same as I was thinking got to come off one ticket and on to another :yp: as for geting your open by how many rounds you shot HA HA Ha HA do you no what they told me when I 1st tried this YOU COULD BE A BAD SHOT the amount of ammo don't give you a open ticket mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted April 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 I know the amount of ammo do sent give me a open cert. But the feo said that because I've only had a fac for a year and gone strait for a .243 to buy bullets do some paper punching get my letters of experience from when I go to Scotland and the ones I have now to prove my experience with a centerfire then he will open it up. I've been shooting this rifle since I was a boy I've got the experience just got to satisfy the feo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 that was the same as I was thinking got to come off one ticket and on to another :yp: as for geting your open by how many rounds you shot HA HA Ha HA do you no what they told me when I 1st tried this YOU COULD BE A BAD SHOT the amount of ammo don't give you a open ticket mate think about two applications for an open ticket, one from a shooter who has bought 20 rounds and another who has bought 500 over the course of a year in a number of different places, which one would you think had actually been out shooting much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted April 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 Excatly. Anyways I've spoke to my local rfd who said bring them to him and he will write it on my fac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 Excatly. Anyways I've spoke to my local rfd who said bring them to him and he will write it on my fac Thank heavens, now we can put this one to bed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 Excatly. Anyways I've spoke to my local rfd who said bring them to him and he will write it on my fac Didn't I say that a week ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 How old is the ammo. If it is decades old is it worth the bother (does ammunition keep well in a garage?) Why not just phone the FLO and ask their advice to be on the safe side? Who knows specifically about this ammo? I have 1985 RG 7.62, (lots of it), it is excellent and people want to buy it from me! Ammo can last many many years if stored appropriately, a LOT longer than this!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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