dave1419 Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 Hiya, do the fibre wads make a lot of difference to the cartridge experience other than price with modern cartridges? Whilst I am practicing at the clay ground and they do allow plastic wads i wondered it either will do for practice? My local shop in whitley bay does seems to have some fibre wadded low weight 6's in stock according to the website but I don't really like the shop. Don't think my clay club sell anything other than 28grm 7.5's so a visit to a shop will be needed. Think I will try weldon gun room Hello my friend,instead of going all the way over to see Steve at Weldon,why not pop into Steve Smiths shooting ground [Jack Reid] at Dinnington. He has ideal shooting stands [sporting] and can supply you with a variety of cartridges suitable for shooting clays,if you want any help with clay shooting-send me a PM and i will get back intouch---Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bop Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 My AYA 16 bore- 1oz loads at all times and it's a joy to shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 real carp Everyone knows Holland & Holland cartridges are just rebranded D&J's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest1957 Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 Everyone knows Holland & Holland cartridges are just rebranded D&J's And tbh not that pricey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxosim Posted May 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 (edited) Hi all thanks for the advice just to update I tried my new sbs out at my local clay ground using 28grm 7.5s and it felt great . Managed to hit about 90% of my shots so quite happy really. Cheers Simon Edited May 5, 2011 by saxosim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted May 6, 2011 Report Share Posted May 6, 2011 (edited) Everyone knows Holland & Holland cartridges are just rebranded D&J's They are hull three crowns, but nobody else that I know of sells paper cartridges in London. Edited May 6, 2011 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky mick Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 i bought a ugartechea master sbs this year, just because i liked the look of it.seems to be identical to an aya yeoman.mainly shoot clays with eley no1 28gm fibre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxosim Posted May 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 (edited) i bought a ugartechea master sbs this year, just because i liked the look of it.seems to be identical to an aya yeoman.mainly shoot clays with eley no1 28gm fibre. I am really pleased with my Ugartechea SBS, I have used it a few times now and it is great, i have tried both Eley 28grm 7.5's and Game Bore Clear Pigeon 30g 6's through it. Edited May 22, 2011 by saxosim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdSolomons Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 Shoot cheapest you can and put as many of them down the pipes as you can! You won't tell the difference between the cheapest and the dearest. Get out and have fun mate. Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towngun Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 Guns follow fashion with no absolute right or wrong. Sir Isaac Newton's laws of motion explains the relationship between a physical object and the forces acting upon it. Heavy load, light guns equals felt recoil. The move from 30 grams to 28 grams (in clays) was based of health and the impact of recoil. Ever considered Brown Ball Syndrome? Watch a video of a shot taken, slow it up and see the head movement. Your brain is suspended as a jelly in its skull box. We know the dangers to footballers and boxers. Consider 100 rounds of sporting clays! Its a phd thesis awaiting a medical student who shoots. Loads: If you shoot clays you of course know that 28 gram or a 24 gram is better than most men or women behind them. If "you" miss, it is you that misses and not the cartridge. Thus, for a light side by side 24 or 28 will be plenty and if you miss it will you who missed not the cartridge. Other: The right hand side by side can greatly aid left eye dominance, especially when used with a barrel guard. You can keep both eyes open and the alignment of the barrels will deny the left eye pulling the gun off. The barrel break is shorter and far quicker to reload. Cleaning the Side by Side is quicker. On a walked up day, shooting is one small part. Weight and carriage of the gun in a bigger part. What purpose a missed bird through fatigue? I shoot both O&U and Side by Side. I like and enjoy both. My Side by Side is an 1960 AYA No2 sidelock. As you may know it a copy of the Holland and Holland Royal and as close to a Best English gun as I'm likely to get. Whilst, I won't say don't follow fashion I will say don't be a slave to fashion. Put on your tweeds, enjoy nostalgia and maybe just maybe our Edwardian forebears had a few things right. For future reading get a copy of one or all three of Gough Thomas books, a grreat sportsman, former Editor of the Shooting Times and expert of the Side by Side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mable Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 2 minutes ago, Towngun said: Cleaning the Side by Side is quicker. How? Why? Don't make sense. The OP was from 2011, not sure he's still around.😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 Mucho Gordon Bennett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHenry Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 Bit of shock to the system that you could buy paper cased cartridges from Holland and Holland for £7.50 a box only 12 years ago..... I know things have gone up, but still.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 3 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Mucho Gordon Bennett. Yup,,,,, and,,,,, been in the wrong section all this time 🥳🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stimo22 Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 On 24/04/2011 at 22:45, bop said: My AYA 16 bore- 1oz loads at all times and it's a joy to shoot. Three crowns paper case through my 16 bore W W Greener but right down to Eley 21g labelled as Langthorn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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