nige123 Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 Hi Guys just a quick one ... went after some rabbits at the local golf course last night and noted a Roe doe limping badly possible broken leg, could you give me some ideas please ie should she be humanely dealt with or are there any other options ? Cheers Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 You ask what to do? Shoot it! It cannot exhibit natural behavior and will most likley die a horrible death. The law states that a Roe deer should only be shot with a rifle bigger than .240'' and with a muzzle energy of 1700ft/lbs It also states that there is a exemption for humane dispatch where any firearm/shotgun can be used to end suffering. Depending on what guns you have got, and how near you can get to it will depend on how you dispatch it. A shotgun at close range to the head is good, however it will be messy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scolopax Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 Other option is to leave it. It would have to be seriously smashed up and infected for me to even consider culling her at this time of year. Broken leg or not she may be suckling kids. We've got a three legged doe on our lease which has produced kids for the last two summers, we only tend to see her out of season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie10 Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 Hi Guys just a quick one ... went after some rabbits at the local golf course last night and noted a Roe doe limping badly possible broken leg, could you give me some ideas please ie should she be humanely dealt with or are there any other options ? Cheers Nige Call Tiggywinkles they can film it for their series, they can 'save' it by chucking it in the back of a van and then put it in a garden shed, it will be stressed and won't feed and die, cut to members of the Tiggywinkles team crying about the deer dying. They can then moan about people/cars/dogs/shooters/fences that might affect the deer and that we should all leave deer alone....apart from the deer bothering Wildlife 'rescue' centres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 Other option is to leave it. It would have to be seriously smashed up and infected for me to even consider culling her at this time of year. Broken leg or not she may be suckling kids. We've got a three legged doe on our lease which has produced kids for the last two summers, we only tend to see her out of season. As i understood it the post stated she was limping badly. I gave advice on what could be done. You woud have to ***** whether it could or could not survive, but i think there is a clause in the deer act that if she was realy in a bad way and was dying you could also cull the kids too. Best thing is if youre not a stalker get some one who is to ***** the deer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scolopax Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 The deer needs to be properly assessed. Badly limping does not neccessarily mean she is in a bad way, I have seen three legged deer and deer with alladins slippers hobbling about which have been in very good condition when culled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 I wouldnt cull a doe out of season just because it is limping . Have you seen it feeding ? If so leave it alone unless it seems to be in serious trouble or pain . Deer are very tough creatures and can survive on three legs ,and any how it could have just injured its leg running into a fence or something . Or like me suffering from old age and stiffness of the joints . Mrs Harnser wouldnt have me put down just yet , or I think she wont . Harnser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 Big difference between limping and a broken leg. If I saw one with an obvious break then it would be despatched limping it would get left. Interestingly Docholiday posted a few pics the other day of a roe in poor condition with a bit of inspection that had a fair leg injury. They can survive but they can also take a long time to die a lingering death its working out how bad it is thats the key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie10 Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 (edited) Leave it, it's out of season, it might have kids, animals heal up well on their own. If it survives or not it's called nature. Al4x is just trigger happy! Edited July 8, 2011 by Richie10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 As it's only limping,and out of season,I would leave it personally.Incidently nige123,if you're in Scotland you don't need a minimum of .240 calibre,a .223 will do it legally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 Keep an eye on her. Her condition will go down hill fast if she's in a bad way and that's the time to whack her. For as long as she looks in ok condition she will still be providing milk if she has young. If she gets really thin and messy then take her down as she probably isn't in a fit state to keep any young she may have had anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 Leave it, it's out of season, it might have kids, animals heal up well on their own. If it survives or not it's called nature. Al4x is just trigger happy! Nature is pretty harsh at times so depends whether you enjoy leaving animals to suffer or can make the decision to despatch to save suffering. Now if it was in season it would be one you would look to take out so why should our self imposed seasons mean you leave an animal to suffer. Obviously dependant young are an issue but a time spent observing before hand should give you an idea if there are any present. In this case its easier to leave the animal than shoot it and you usually only know if the right call has been made afterwards. Breaks especially if the bone has appeared through the skin are fairly rare to heal properly in the wild depending where it is. Deer its usually either from jumping fences or cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige123 Posted July 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2011 Thanks to all for your comments, i've been watching her over the last couple of days and she appears to be feeding well and with no young intow, no signs of bone breaking through so thinking best to leave her be and observe her condition which hopefully will improve Once again thankyou for your veiws Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Elvis Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 Call Tiggywinkles they can film it for their series, they can 'save' it by chucking it in the back of a van and then put it in a garden shed, it will be stressed and won't feed and die, cut to members of the Tiggywinkles team crying about the deer dying. They can then moan about people/cars/dogs/shooters/fences that might affect the deer and that we should all leave deer alone....apart from the deer bothering Wildlife 'rescue' centres. ooooooDo I detect a slight hint of sarcasm? :blink: :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie10 Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 Nature is pretty harsh at times so depends whether you enjoy leaving animals to suffer or can make the decision to despatch to save suffering. Now if it was in season it would be one you would look to take out so why should our self imposed seasons mean you leave an animal to suffer. Obviously dependant young are an issue but a time spent observing before hand should give you an idea if there are any present. In this case its easier to leave the animal than shoot it and you usually only know if the right call has been made afterwards. Breaks especially if the bone has appeared through the skin are fairly rare to heal properly in the wild depending where it is. Deer its usually either from jumping fences or cars. It's nature, let it run it's course, you could shoot a perfectly good deer with young. If it is still around in November shoot it then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie10 Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 ooooooDo I detect a slight hint of sarcasm? :blink: :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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