M.I.A Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 I have seen a post on this forum saying that it is ideal to run a new semi auto in with heavier loads? i.e 32g etc.... Is this true, if so why? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semiautolee Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 so that your not going to be a woman and just use 28gs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.I.A Posted September 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 lol there is that, but 28 is far too heavy. I buy 24g and drop 20g so i have 4g left, that i can just about manage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semiautolee Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 :lol: stick to a lanber less parts to go worng Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.I.A Posted September 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 lol Have you heard this before though? i would like to understand the reasoning behind it...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semiautolee Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 (edited) to be honest i think its a load of bull, i have heard of it before but never found the answer, but im sure someone will be along to explain with an essay of explanations Edited September 19, 2011 by semiautolee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 oh god its a hatstand too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Elvis Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 When Mungler and ME bought extremas, they were advised to use some heavy duty loads through it first to "bed it in" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark-70 Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 I've just bought a new Benelli M2, the manual says the same thing but I took it out for it's first outing lastnight and it cycled everything I put through it, flawlessly! I think unless your experiencing feeding probs then don't worry about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 Gas autos dont need to as long as you give it a good clean to remove all the thick factory packing grease. Inertia autos ideally need heavier loads as springs etc are still new and stiff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpatten Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 Using a heavy recoiling cartridge in any new auto ensures that it works correctly from the outset and overcomes any initial tendency to fail to cycle caused by grease,tightness of the moving components,rough spots etc. and helps to anneal stiff springs. It is, to the best of my knowledge, a practice recommended by all manufacturers of semi auto`s in their operating manuals. Since they have experience of many,many thousands of them, there might be something in it. I`m always intrigued by the mind set that chooses to ignore the clear and specific instructions given by the manufacturer. Why would you want to ignore what the maker suggests you do? Just to illustrate the point, the majority of Benelli semi auto users I`ve shot with load their guns incorrectly and not in accordance with the makers suggestions, and them wonder why it sometimes does`nt work because they`ve never bothered to read the instruction manual. I really must be a sad old *** if I make sure I read the operators manuals for the stuff I use. It`s an age thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 Using a heavy recoiling cartridge in any new auto ensures that it works correctly from the outset and overcomes any initial tendency to fail to cycle caused by grease,tightness of the moving components,rough spots etc. and helps to anneal stiff springs. It is, to the best of my knowledge, a practice recommended by all manufacturers of semi auto`s in their operating manuals. Since they have experience of many,many thousands of them, there might be something in it. I`m always intrigued by the mind set that chooses to ignore the clear and specific instructions given by the manufacturer. Why would you want to ignore what the maker suggests you do? Just to illustrate the point, the majority of Benelli semi auto users I`ve shot with load their guns incorrectly and not in accordance with the makers suggestions, and them wonder why it sometimes does`nt work because they`ve never bothered to read the instruction manual. I really must be a sad old *** if I make sure I read the operators manuals for the stuff I use. It`s an age thing. Manuals are not for reading Get a decent gun that doesnt have ''any initial tendency to fail to cycle caused by grease,tightness of the moving components,rough spots etc. and helps to anneal stiff springs'' and that cannot be loaded incorrectly, something like an Xtrema 2 Sad old *** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 I'm pretty sure that even Beretta suggest that heavy loads are used at first? They certainly were on the first Xtrema. When anything is manufactured it's going to have rough spots and sharp edges. Shooting the heavy loads just smoothes things out a bit to make everything run as it should. Just as a new car engine shouldn't be red lined from the showroom etc, most new stuff needs running in. Just do as the book says. You can be sure your kit will work as it should that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 Yep I've heared it before I've just changed my recoil spring in my Remmington and it does seem a bit fussy on ejection, I was told to fire a slab of heavy shells to settle the spring. Or put the old one back and leave off the heavy loads! Paladin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark-70 Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 I read the M2 manual right through before even assembling the gun! And the advice to use heavy loads is actually in the "Trouble shooting" section & says IF you experience cycling problems. It does not state anywhere that it is a necessary procedure on the new gun. Mudpatten please don't be so presumptuous as to what other people have or haven't done, regarding manual reading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 I have seen a post on this forum saying that it is ideal to run a new semi auto in with heavier loads? i.e 32g etc.... Is this true, if so why? Thanks What does your users manual advise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark-70 Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 Best advice so far Mongrel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Elvis Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 AHHHHHHHH thats why MOST escorts wont cycle a ******* thing!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.I.A Posted September 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 (edited) It was just a general question, regardless of who makes them Edited September 21, 2011 by M.I.A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonD Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 It was just a general question, regardless of who makes them When I got my Beretta AL391 last year there was a sticker on the box saying to run it in with 32g or heavier, as has been said it's to bed the action and spring in. I did mine with 28g Steel as they are as kicky as 32's After 19000 cartridges I have only had 4 failures to cycle, twice using 24g after a recoil spring change and the other 2 were when it got soaked at a shoot. Jon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.I.A Posted September 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 Blooming hell thats munched some carts lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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