poontang Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 Can I backbore mine using an electric drill, a long bit of dowel and a lot of emery cloth? Yes Phil. That's how all the top 'smiths do it Give it a go, but take it easy. I tried it and ended up with a 4 bore. :oops: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 Did you know you can't shoot a camo gun in a CPSA shoot? :P :lol: Not true You can't wear camo clothing but there's nothing to say you can't use a camo gun. It's all irrelevant though, as I'm going to paint mine orange. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilR Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 Yes Phil. That's how all the top 'smiths do it Give it a go, but take it easy. I tried it and ended up with a 4 bore. :oops: Right I'll try it on the Perazzi first as I wouldn't want to muck the Miroku up. It's over 30 years old and will soon become a collectable item of immense value Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugerandsmith Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 They are a wannabe Browning........ Bit like people drive crash VW Golf's who wish they could have an Audi A3 :yp: Tips. Browning went to Miroku to have guns made for them ....Not the other way round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdSolomons Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 So how does Gun fit rate on the importance scale? You know, 1-10? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROY Posted December 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 The guns i am thinking of are...... Lanber Field Berretta 682 Browning 325 Browning b425 Miroku 3800 Miroku Mk38 Grade 1 Webley 912K Most of these guns i have seen are second hand and in my price range however i would like a new gun both the Lanber and Webley are in my price range new. Any pros/cons of new vs secondhand, any of the guns real shockers not to be touched?? Will any not be proofed for steel shot??? I am surprised no one has mentioned Gun fit yet!!!! :unsure: :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdSolomons Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 Knock lanber and webley straight of and get an old 682 or a 3800. Done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timps Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 Tips. Browning went to Miroku to have guns made for them ....Not the other way round. I know and VW own Audi not the other way round........ It was my tongue in cheek point. They are the same gun, just a few minor differences & a higher price, it's the humor round here hence the smiley. If I thought they were really **** I would not have had so many of my own Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerettaSV10 Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 So how does Gun fit rate on the importance scale? You know, 1-10? 10, if you are new to the sport your stance and mount wont be perfect, so take a experianced shooter or coach who knows about gun mounting, a good gun shop should also be able to help you rather than just sell you any gun they have had hanging around in the shop. If you have a ill fitting gun you won't be happy holding it, which in turn can put you off shooting. In the worse case you could end up having bruised shoulders / cheeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timps Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 Oh and do you mean timps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ME Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 (edited) I have also got a Benelli Pumper. It has grade 5 plastic if you are interested. Only asking £700. As long as you aren't built like a monkey or a giraffe, I guarantee that it'll fit you. Edited December 7, 2011 by ME Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerettaSV10 Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 (edited) The guns i am thinking of are...... Lanber Field has a good reputaion by some Berretta 682 I found these to be whippy can be an advantage with some. worth looking at the 686E as well Browning 325 Browning b425 Miroku 3800 Miroku Mk38 Grade 1 Another good gun, could also look at the browning 525 Webley 912K Most of these guns i have seen are second hand and in my price range however i would like a new gun both the Lanber and Webley are in my price range new. Any pros/cons of new vs secondhand, any of the guns real shockers not to be touched?? Will any not be proofed for steel shot??? I am surprised no one has mentioned Gun fit yet!!!! :unsure: :o Some good choices there in your selection, you could add the beretta 686E. This is whare the fit comes in, the browning & miroku's have a fairly strieght cast where beretta's have a few more degrees of cast and will suit different people. Edited December 7, 2011 by BerettaSV10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OvEr_KiLL Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 if you want new mate i would go for the lanber sporting delux..it has some good reviews on the net or secondhand i would go for one of the beretta 686 687 silver pigeons or the miroku mk38 but the chokes are the ones that screw in the end on the mk38, (i think) see which one fits you the best mate, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 If you have no experience of shooting get yourself a few lessons with a GOOD coach;your shooting organisation can point you in the right direction.You may think it's expensive,but will save you a lot of money in the long run.Forget about gun fit,if you're a beginner then you wont be able to mount a gun consistently in the right place anyway,and no-one can fit a gun to a person who cannot mount a gun properly.This is where the coach can help you,along with a myriad of other things which can stop you picking up bad habits,and only picking up the good ones. A good coach should have a variety of different guns for you to try,and will soon be able to tell you which make and model suits your physique best.Believe me,do all this before you buy a gun,and you wont regret it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdSolomons Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 10, if you are new to the sport your stance and mount wont be perfect, so take a experianced shooter or coach who knows about gun mounting, a good gun shop should also be able to help you rather than just sell you any gun they have had hanging around in the shop. If you have a ill fitting gun you won't be happy holding it, which in turn can put you off shooting. In the worse case you could end up having bruised shoulders / cheeks. Cheers for that! Nothing worse than bruised cheeks.... Anyone know a good coach? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerettaSV10 Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 plenty of good coaches around, if you post your rough locaction some one will be able to advise of ones in your area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROY Posted December 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 I am in North Kent my local shoots are Hawley CSG and JJ,s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ME Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 I am in North Kent my local shoots are Hawley CSG and JJ,s. You will need some tattoos, an earring or two, some rigger boots and a camo jacket in that case. Get the dress code right and you will be fine. Oh, and don't go as a stranger to Hawley and have the front to be high gun - otherwise they will have to invent a rule that will time bar you from winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROY Posted December 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 You will need some tattoos, an earring or two, some rigger boots and a camo jacket in that case. Get the dress code right and you will be fine. Well thats fine then!!!! To be honest after talking to the FAO today was thinking of maybe going to JJ's instead!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OvEr_KiLL Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 mate dont take it seriously, hes only messing with ya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ME Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 To be honest after talking to the FAO today was thinking of maybe going to JJ's instead!!! JJ's can be very exciting. Sometimes the traps are placed a centimetre different from where they were 5 years ago. Sometimes they have floppy droppers and other times droppy floppers. This kind of excitement commands some big queues too - understandably :blink: mate dont take it seriously, hes only messing with ya No, I really am not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browning 425 clay hunter Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 I've got a b425 and love it. The beretta's just didn't agree with me. Didn't fit or feel right. U will find people with beretta's don't like brownings and vice versa. Best advice is make a list of what u fancy and go and have a play with them in a shop or even better if u know someone who's got one go and shoot with them. Try not to get to set on one gun and pick the one that feels 'right'. When I bought mine I went originally to look at a 686 but didn't like it once I got hold. The comment about brownings looking orange is a strange one. Maybe he'd seen a bad D.I.Y job. Or poor eyesight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerboy Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 (edited) Knock lanber and webley straight of and get an old 682 or a 3800. Done! Sweeping statement, please explain. Not why the others are better, but why not to buy those particular guns. They are plentyful at clay shoots without any more complaints than the guns that you recommend to buy. Or is it just preference? Edited December 7, 2011 by bakerboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROY Posted December 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 I have noticed that our good friend ME is a real laugh a minute!!! :lol: I dont think i have read a serious post he written yet!! so if hawley is full o ******!!! and JJs is boring where should i go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROY Posted December 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 I've got a b425 and love it. The beretta's just didn't agree with me. Didn't fit or feel right. U will find people with beretta's don't like brownings and vice versa. Best advice is make a list of what u fancy and go and have a play with them in a shop or even better if u know someone who's got one go and shoot with them. Try not to get to set on one gun and pick the one that feels 'right'. When I bought mine I went originally to look at a 686 but didn't like it once I got hold. The comment about brownings looking orange is a strange one. Maybe he'd seen a bad D.I.Y job. Or poor eyesight. Thats probably what i will do really wanted to know if there were any associated problems with my list I have seen some bad opinions of the webley but it got great right up in most of the gun mag as did the lanber. I have used a browning semi in 20bore and kept getting an eye full of thumb with every shot. the 686 i used the other day was lovely.though to be honest am really fancying the lanber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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