ilovemyheckler Posted December 30, 2011 Report Share Posted December 30, 2011 further to my earlier post regarding "which cartridge for pheasant shooting" what is difference between the brands of cartridges, for example say a 12 bore, number 6 shot, 28g load, fibre wad there are several different manufaurers that make this spec of cartridge but the prices vary quite a bit so why is one brand more expensive than another for identical specification shells? This might seem obvious to most people on here but i am very new to shotguns Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted December 30, 2011 Report Share Posted December 30, 2011 further to my earlier post regarding "which cartridge for pheasant shooting" what is difference between the brands of cartridges, for example say a 12 bore, number 6 shot, 28g load, fibre wad there are several different manufaurers that make this spec of cartridge but the prices vary quite a bit so why is one brand more expensive than another for identical specification shells? This might seem obvious to most people on here but i am very new to shotguns Thanks Branding and packaging means you'll pay a lot more for a 'game' cartridge as opposed to the same spec in a 'pigeon' shell. Generally there's very little difference in performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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silpig5 Posted December 30, 2011 Report Share Posted December 30, 2011 Branding and packaging means you'll pay a lot more for a 'game' cartridge as opposed to the same spec in a 'pigeon' shell. Generally there's very little difference in performance. with a bit of differance in powder speeds , i.e. feet per second . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One man and his lab Posted December 30, 2011 Report Share Posted December 30, 2011 You might also find the higher priced brand has a higher brass. Eley VIP's are a very high brass and quite expensive. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted December 30, 2011 Report Share Posted December 30, 2011 Higher prices will generally indicate better quality shot and usually better patterns. You get what you pay for sometimes!(but not always). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 It's normally down to higher priced components ie better or nicer case,higher antimony and polished shot,progressive powder in some more expensive powder in some others and better wad material to give a smoother shooting cart with higher performance and superior patterns if we believe the hype. But I still don't get why game carts cost more than clay carts for the same load and shot size,especially from the same manufacturer when both have the exact same performance. ATB figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mag357 Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 You will pay a higher price due to different powders, some are better than others,some slower and some faster burning.Also shot hardness plays a big part in price, the harder the shot the higher the price, magnum hard shot contains a higher %age of alloying elements such as antimony to give it hardness.A lot of fitasc shooters use magnum hard shot to break clays at greater distances. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdSolomons Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 Almost entirely marketing I'm afraid to say! Most people are happy to pay big money if it has a nice big shiny metal bit at one end and looks pretty. In a blind test I would be happy to put big money up for anyone who can tell the difference perdormace wise between any of them, bar the recoil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azzurri Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 It's normally down to higher priced components ie better or nicer case,higher antimony and polished shot,progressive powder in some more expensive powder in some others and better wad material to give a smoother shooting cart with higher performance and superior patterns if we believe the hype. But I still don't get why game carts cost more than clay carts for the same load and shot size,especially from the same manufacturer when both have the exact same performance. ATB figgy If you're going to pay 30 odd quid +VAT per Bird for your days Game Shooting then the cartridges you use are peanuts compared to the cost of your day on the pheasants. I think the cartridge manufacturers realised this long ago,so a good helping of marketing hype,tall brass and B.S keeps the prices high :good: Azzurri. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 If you're going to pay 30 odd quid +VAT per Bird for your days Game Shooting then the cartridges you use are peanuts compared to the cost of your day on the pheasants. I think the cartridge manufacturers realised this long ago,so a good helping of marketing hype,tall brass and B.S keeps the prices high :good: Azzurri. B.S. Is that a highly technical manufacturing process? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azzurri Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 B.S. Is that a highly technical manufacturing process? I reckon cos they use it in clay carts too Azzurri. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 I reckon cos they use it in clay carts too Azzurri. Yes, I think there's quite a few qualified B.S. Engineers on here :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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