Daveo26 Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Right lads Iv got 5 grand to buy a disco, Im thinking a disco 2??? Our lass has to use it too and she does not want to have an old disco 1 Im hearing all sorts of conflicting advice regarding what to buy. I have been looking on auto trader and there are literally 1000's for sale. Is high mileage a big issue? how good is the TD5 compared to the 200/300 TDIs? Plese help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamsin Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 I would not have a Landrover as a Gift never mind using my own cash to buy one. I made that mistake a few years ago and got my self a 300 TDI. I may as well have stood on the street chucking money in the air. It was the biggest money pit i have ever had. I now own a Ford mavrick, on a 97 plate (So really its a Nissan Terrano) and that why i bought it. My dad had one and i used it to pull 44ton HGV's out of our yard and up a slight hill to the main roads. They pull like a bitch, the engines last a life time (As fitted to the london taxi black cabs. So if your going to get one steer well clear of the 300TDI, it was the worst one they ever made, the 200TDI is far better. The TD5 again is a lot better still. But for my money Nissan all the way (The newer Ford Mavs are made by Ford and not as good as the Nissan versions) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR1960 Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 errrrrrrr, don't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_evil Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 I would not have a Landrover as a Gift never mind using my own cash to buy one. I made that mistake a few years ago and got my self a 300 TDI. I may as well have stood on the street chucking money in the air. It was the biggest money pit i have ever had. I now own a Ford mavrick, on a 97 plate (So really its a Nissan Terrano) and that why i bought it. My dad had one and i used it to pull 44ton HGV's out of our yard and up a slight hill to the main roads. They pull like a bitch, the engines last a life time (As fitted to the london taxi black cabs. So if your going to get one steer well clear of the 300TDI, it was the worst one they ever made, the 200TDI is far better. The TD5 again is a lot better still. But for my money Nissan all the way (The newer Ford Mavs are made by Ford and not as good as the Nissan versions) You know nothing. The 300tdi is regarded as one of the best engines ever to be put into a landrover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alendil Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 i was always told that 200TDI is beter. les electronics and stronger internals.( tip from landrover tech working with them about 35 years.) best Discovery buying advice is DON'T BUY ONE.compering with any other car i ever use and repair ( even toyota soarer 2.5TT) it was the most epensive car to repair chep parts just all the time something wrong with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_evil Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 i was always told that 200TDI is beter. les electronics and stronger internals.( tip from landrover tech working with them about 35 years.) best Discovery buying advice is DON'T BUY ONE.compering with any other car i ever use and repair ( even toyota soarer 2.5TT) it was the most epensive car to repair chep parts just all the time something wrong with it. From an electrics point of view yes the 200 is simpler but from a parts point of view theres a few more complexities, the early 300's weren't great as they were ironing out kinks (its nothing like a 200, all it shares is the same displacement and general shape really) however the mid to late 300's are still simple to work on and excellent engines. The military chose the 300 over the 200 due to the 300 being easier to fix in the field Discoveries are simple to look after, just keep on top of services and when buying make sure you check for rust……as to wear and tear parts are cheap as said and for the competent home mechanic anything is do-able Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cockermax Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Had a 300 Tdi and have now got a TD5, prefer the TD5 as it drives better than the 300Tdi, but it has more complex electronics. If you are dead set on getting a Discovery, have a good look round and buy the best one you can as something will go wrong with it. Have a look at some of the dedicated Discovery Forums which will give you an idea of some of the most common problems with all the Discoverys. Best of luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrowningDJC Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 TD5 I would personally steer clear of, but that doesnt leave you much option as older 300 tdis etc are going to be rotten by now. Have a look around at alternatives in your price range maybe? But if you are set on a disco i would just say normal things likle service history etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_evil Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 300tdi's aren't rotten I've got two perfect ones Search around, buy one thats seized into high ratio, waxoyled from new and been used as an invalid carriage then you're in business as you know its not been driven like its stolen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveo26 Posted February 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 ok...... Alternatives please? whats the best 4x4 for 5 grand?? Its got to take my wife to work everyday and be a family car through the week. I will use it for shooting during the season and stalking/lamping and stuff on weekends. It wont be used for really tough off roading just stubble fields and the like. I heard the nissans were horrible on fuel?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_evil Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Disco, Hilux DC, Navara DC, Patrol, Trooper Citation, 110 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stokie Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Most people who bitch about landrovers are the kind of people who just love to moan and have no idea what they are talking about . Any car can break at any time . Most 4x4 s have never driven down a dirty street let alone a muddy field I have got a 97 disco 300tdi it pulls like a train . It starts every time with no smoke with my mud terrains on it will cross any field I want it to even drive through rivers in it . There are no modifications to it except a steering guard and Insa turbo dakars . I have green laned it and off roaded it in a quarry It is my lamping truck and log hauler. All this and it's also my daily drive Don't listen to the muppets that think they know best I hearby lay down a challenge to anyone with any other make of motor in standard form to drive over the Wayfarer in Wales it's an 8 mile heavily rutted flooded track that passes over 2 mountains I have done it many times have you ......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbiter Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 im with stokie on this...i too run a 1997 disco 300,excellent machine... DAZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_evil Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Most people who bitch about landrovers are the kind of people who just love to moan and have no idea what they are talking about . Any car can break at any time . Most 4x4 s have never driven down a dirty street let alone a muddy field I have got a 97 disco 300tdi it pulls like a train . It starts every time with no smoke with my mud terrains on it will cross any field I want it to even drive through rivers in it . There are no modifications to it except a steering guard and Insa turbo dakars . I have green laned it and off roaded it in a quarry It is my lamping truck and log hauler. All this and it's also my daily drive Don't listen to the muppets that think they know best I hearby lay down a challenge to anyone with any other make of motor in standard form to drive over the Wayfarer in Wales it's an 8 mile heavily rutted flooded track that passes over 2 mountains I have done it many times have you ......... I'd like to see jasmin's precious terrano manage that……..I only trust 4x4's I know Landrovers, Discos, RR's, Hilux's, Navaras, Landcruiser Amazons, Patrols and a few of the big American beasts like the Yukon XL, Ford Superduty's, Bronco's, Suburbans, Blazers and Dodge Rams Why ? because I've either owned, been in them, know a mate who's got one or experienced them at work (we used a Yukon XL to cross Canada in mid winter) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 I have a frontera and have/am looking at getting a disco,so have joined a landy forum,looked at loads on e-bay/auto trader etc,asked questions everywhere............. Off road boys and oval lovers will tell you they are better than the rest 200s are mostly rotted to bits 300 tdi,rotted unless you buy some es models !,engine is transfered from one to another disco after the 1st one rots and are the best engine The only rust prevention landrover did under neath was paint hence rot in cross members,arches,cills,boot floor etc sunroofs leak,as early models had rubber gasket set that compressed to easy,there is a upgrade replacement boot door sticks,mud gets in lock and seizes spring rear n/side passenger door doesnt open/lock properly and needs an actuator !!! The above plus other stuff has made my mind up that i want a disco,not because its better on fields than my frontera because its NOT,but because its bigger with more extras to bolt on,cheap parts,looks good etc etc. Have now narrowed it down to a manual 2.5 300 tdi late 90s or td5 upto 03 plate,between 3-5k,es model because of being looked after (not generaly been off roaded) and gizmos,one with milage upto 100k,low owners,all mots and service stamps,one that had a lot of replacement parts with lots of history. Low milage doesnt mean anything as its the rot that will kill it and it should have all old mots and stamps in book with different pen/stamp etc to prove milage,registered at owners address,2 key fobs. Every time i find one of the above discos its sold or in scotland Still.its due to snow here fri/sat/sun and my frontera will love it ,till i find a disco:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrowningDJC Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 300 tdi's arent rotten? Ive had 2 friends scrapped theirs due to the welding needed being uneconomical, seen numerous others in my fathers garage and more recently a TD5 discovery being sent to the scrap yard as the boot floor, bulk head and parts of the chassis had rotted out. For 4-5 grand any discovery around that price bracket you WILL be spending money on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_evil Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Well they obviously bought bad ones, as I said I have two which have never been welded, waxoyled from new and the chassis are solid I paid 3k for mine and 4.5 for the other, needed the low range freeing up as it had never been used and a full service, apart from that everything else has been consumables………….so again WRONG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrowningDJC Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 300 TDI's arent rotten? Ive had 2 friends send theirs to the scrap yard because the amount of welding needed made it an uneconomical repair! The last discovery which came in to my fathers garage was a late 300 on a T plate and thats now sitting in the scrap yard! As is a 2000 reg TD5 disco which has rotted out around the bulk head chassis and the boot floor! Any disco in the 4-5 grand bracket be prepared to spend money on, because you WILL be. Have a look around and see wot else you could get for the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrowningDJC Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 ' So again wrong ' how can experiences be wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_evil Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 (edited) 300 TDI's arent rotten? Ive had 2 friends send theirs to the scrap yard because the amount of welding needed made it an uneconomical repair! The last discovery which came in to my fathers garage was a late 300 on a T plate and thats now sitting in the scrap yard! As is a 2000 reg TD5 disco which has rotted out around the bulk head chassis and the boot floor! Any disco in the 4-5 grand bracket be prepared to spend money on, because you WILL be. Have a look around and see wot else you could get for the money. As I said before you decided to re-post you are very much WRONG. We have a 97 and a 98, both are solid, search for one and you will find……..I travelled to brum to collect my 98 and it was well worth the months I spent searching for a good one. As to a 2000 TD5 I wouldn't touch one of them even if it was solid, the early TD5 engines are terrible but you can easily get a mint, solid and well looked after disco for 5k or less Wrong because you've seen 3 ? I've got friends with discos and am part of a landrover forum, yes a few discos are rotten but most on the site are well looked after and solid underneath, if you go offroad clean it after use and waxoyl in summer ready for winter. 3 disco's is your experience going from your posts, I've seen and been in countless discos, our first one was bought in 1995 and lasted up until late 2000 when the engine went, chassis was still solid as a rock though Edited February 1, 2012 by Dr_evil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrowningDJC Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 My post didnt seem to have worked hence my re post. I dont think you can call any personal experience wrong, especailly ones which have come from experienced mechanics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_evil Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 (edited) Yes you've had 3 bad encounters thats it Welding is never un-economical its just un-economical taking one to a garage to get welded, its a simple job to do by yourself. I don't trust any mechanic apart from the local who's worked on our landrovers for the last 10 years, if you want proof that not all discos of that age are rotten then get out and look but for now here's the underside and arches of my disco Edited February 1, 2012 by Dr_evil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshLamb Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 My post didnt seem to have worked hence my re post. I dont think you can call any personal experience wrong, especailly ones which have come from experienced mechanics. You're wrong. Now get over it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_evil Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 You're wrong. Now get over it hahaha backup has arrived Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrowningDJC Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Haha Land Rover boys will be out in force soon! I didnt say every discovery was rotten, but from wot ive seen they seem to suffer from it a long with LOTS of other issues. And seeing vehicles every day being worked on and common faults i think i had room to comment. Fact is ive seen a lot more Land Rover owners will big bills and major mechanical issues than owners which are happy with them! Im not a Land Rover hater, in fact when i was younger there was a series 2A sitting on the drive, but quality in Land Rovers have declined greatly! Lets just hope Tata can sort them out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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