shortwing Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 (edited) Hi Everyone I am new to the forum and I breed and hunt falcons and hawks and as such I cannot use poisons I am looking for advice on what bait is the best to bait spring traps with I also have a couple of live traps any advice please Regards Dave Edited February 8, 2012 by shortwing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazyapp Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Hi Everyone I am new to the forum and I breed and hunt falcons and hawks and as such I cannot use poisons I am looking for advice on what bait is the best to bait spring traps with I also have a couple of live traps any advice please Regards Dave For some strange reason i have found Bounty chocolate bars work rather well :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s4s Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 chocolate and boiled eggs,good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Jam Snickers Their foodstuff Fishing bait attractant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG 5 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Chocolate or bacon rind. Rats love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortwing Posted February 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Thans for the suggestions I have tried the following bates in the past dayold chicks peanut butter cheese bread sausage bacon with limited results but I will try the suggestions posted and I have just had a couple of tunnel traps deliverd off ebay yesterday atb Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulpicide Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 (edited) Buy an OWL failing that peanut butter Edited February 9, 2012 by vulpicide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortwing Posted February 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Buy an OWL failing that peanut butter Would,nt have one given but each to there own Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stubby Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 first determine that it is rats and not mice, as mice wont be heavy enough to spring rat traps, and maybe a reason the baits you used in the past did'nt catch if its deffo rats, why are they there, food, harbourage or both, if just food, either remove that food stuff, or use it on your breakback traps, also as they need to constantly drink water, where is this?, if further away, set up your live catch traps with water bowls beyond the treadle plate in your area, your bait might not attract them, water will if its harbourage, ie living under your bird mews, then remove the birds for the day and smoke the ******* out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 ....and there is nothing to stop you using "poisons", if you want, thats why we have tamper resistant species specific bait boxes! There are plenty of ways to burrow bait as well if required. Traps should also be boxed if you have pets/children/birds of prey, etc. Plenty of options....and can't you utilise your Falcons and Hawks, perhaps that is a daft suggestion, but would they not attack/eat your rats?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stubby Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 ....and there is nothing to stop you using "poisons", if you want, thats why we have tamper resistant species specific bait boxes! ! I presumed by the op's first post, that the rats could possibly be inside the mews, I doubt he's not to worried about his bop's opening the bait stations, but more along the lines of secondary poisoning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 I presumed by the op's first post, that the rats could possibly be inside the mews, I doubt he's not to worried about his bop's opening the bait stations, but more along the lines of secondary poisoning Frankly I suspect that secondary poisoning is something he has never considered and/or possibly knows nothing about. He is concerned about "poisoning" his birds, the risks are minimal with currently approved baits!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Frankly I suspect that secondary poisoning is something he has never considered and/or possibly knows nothing about. He is concerned about "poisoning" his birds, the risks are minimal with currently approved baits!! Thats very Condescending of you , clearly he has thought about secondary poisoning because that is why he does not want to use poison. Would you take the minimal risk if they were your birds ?. :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 (edited) Thats very Condescending of you , clearly he has thought about secondary poisoning because that is why he does not want to use poison. Would you take the minimal risk if they were your birds ?. :blink: YES! It isn't condescending at all, he just hasn't thought it through, doesn't know what he is talking about, doesn't know that any approved rat "poison" in the UK is NOT a poison (in the sense that the majority consider), and doesn't know how to deal with rats, he has made assumptions, somewhat like you,...I can solve his rat problem without any issue to his birds, because I get paid to do this sort of thing all the time. Thats why Pest Controllers exist, we are paid to know how to do it! Edited March 3, 2012 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortwing Posted March 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 (edited) Thanks for the posts in answer to some of them Yes it is rats and not mice and they are getting into the mews as I have seen them on the cctv Yes the birds do catch them the hawks more than the falcons which I would prefer they didnt No I do not know my poisons but would not risk any where the birds are due to as mentioned secondry poisoning to the birds that ar,nt cheep I have tried all the suggestions with no results to date I cannot go into the pens to ofton as its the breeding season now and they wont take being disturbed when on eggs Thanks for all the help Dave Here is one of the birds its a Harris X Redtail she is 3lb-14.5 lbs and hunts at 2-14lbs Edited March 8, 2012 by shortwing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 Modern rat "poisons" work over a repeated exposure rather than a single dose to prevent the risk of secondary poisoning to pets and wild predators. I can understand the fear that people have but the bird would have to be killing and eating a lot of dosed rats to be at risk. Saying that, you can't beat a well places trap but coming into spring you will need to be killing at a phenomenal rate to beat the breeding levels and only an effective rodenticide can achieve this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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