Dekers Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 Ok, I have asked about the Bushnells before, but I am now seriously thinking about putting my hand in my pocket, whichever way you look at it they are a few ££££. Are they worth it, are you happy, any other scope suggestions for the same money, I am only interested in Mil dot! Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
station Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 I have one and love it Never spent loads on scopes in the past, always around the £150 - £200 mark for new so that's a sign of how good I think they are. Good build quality, bright and clear sight picture and the zoom range is exceptional for all that I do. Make sure you buy genuine, as there are copies around - I got mine 12 months ago from BAR for around £450. I have got a second hand Leupold that is a great scope so maybe worth looking around for one of those as well. The only thing with entry level Leupolds though is that they are normally not AO. Hence why I bought second hand and got what I wanted - VX11 in 4-12x40 AO and paid £250 for it. What are you putting it on ? Most people (including myself) always over scope their guns. ATB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntsman Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 I have one and in a few words,can sum the scope up very well, clear optics, good build, and cheaper that a swarovski, Schmidt bender great scope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telf Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 have you thought about a zeiss conquest,i have a 4.5-14x50 mildot and its excellent,about £550from usa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oly Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 I have a pair of them, love them, great build, optics etc etc. I can't tell the difference between them and the usual expensive brands...plus the super wide variable mag is sooo useful that they accomodate all my shooting needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 I like Bushnell scopes and the 6500 scopes are top notch. I have a Bushnell Elite 3200 10x40 Mil-Dot scope on my Rapid 17 air-rifle and its a lovely optic.The 6500 range are better quality again! What rifle do you intend putting it on and what purpose?If your thinking of using it for Lamping then it's a good choice because of the 50mm lens will give you good light gathering! ATB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vince Green Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 I am a fan of Bushnells, between myself and my friends we must have bought about 20 different ones direct from China now and never had a problem. The ones that come from China direct are not fakes as station suggested, they are made in China. They just don't come via the US and pass through several sets of hands on the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
station Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 I am a fan of Bushnells, between myself and my friends we must have bought about 20 different ones direct from China now and never had a problem. The ones that come from China direct are not fakes as station suggested, they are made in China. They just don't come via the US and pass through several sets of hands on the way. Also, Vickers the UK licensed importers won't stand by the warranty as the serial numbers do not match theirs. You may find that there are more than one company in China making them - as in the genuine one and several copy companies. Remember, China makes some very good products as well as being the copy capital of the world, so you might just find I am correct. You can save money, but at what cost in the long term. Buy British (or at least Chinese from a Brit) ATB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 I'd be very wary of buying any "named" scope from China, they make incredibly realistic copies but the detail is all on the outside. I have seen "Leupold" copies that looked amazing, but actually contained cheap glass and a comedy reticule that was good for nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Logic Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Elites are made in Japan, and are pretty good. Personally I'd get the tactical 6-24x50 as it is the line which was the 4200 series. I did not have a good experience with a 4.5-30 Bushnell, but the lower mag may be better. The 6-24 got a good write up on sniper central mind, and some other folk have also said good things. My 4-16 is a very good scope also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 (edited) Also, Vickers the UK licensed importers won't stand by the warranty as the serial numbers do not match theirs. You may find that there are more than one company in China making them - as in the genuine one and several copy companies.Remember, China makes some very good products as well as being the copy capital of the world, so you might just find I am correct. You can save money, but at what cost in the long term. Buy British (or at least Chinese from a Brit) ATB Thats basically not how chinese industry works. They are still a Communist Country, although you may be forgiven for forgetting that. All factories are owned notionally by the Goverment and they are told what they can make. The Chinese never copy their own goods although its a free for all on anybody else's products. For them to do a rip off on Bushnell scopes would be ripping off the government and they would regard that as treason. Thats one of the safeguards when buying stuff from China. Only buy items that you know are made there, Bushnell Simmonds etc and buy it from one of the bigger sellers direct.It actually probably works better for non shooting gear, fishing gear comes to mind and things like tennis racquets. I do take your point about the warranty but that is the risk you take. To set up a factory making fake scopes, a complicated business, would make no sense when they can get the genuine article so easily and so cheaply without the bother. Edited February 15, 2012 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicykillgaz Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 They do rip off bushnells as I've purchased one before and it was poor and blatantly not a genuine bushnell, China don't copy stuff that is a Chinese product but will copy anything that they make for us to be sold to us, that's what you get fakes on ebay all they do to get round it is not state that its genuine. If you buy one buy genuine, you'll spot a fake they usually have bushnell and the scope spec written on the ocular housing and have plain turret caps instead of the one with the b on them and they look cheap in general. there are a lit of 3-9x56 on ebay and when i checked the bushnell site they didn't do that spec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Thats basically not how chinese industry works. Have a look on eVilbay and you'll see any number of fake Bushnells. Here's one to start you off http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bushnell-3-9x32E-Illuminated-R-G-Tactical-Fishbone-Rifle-Scope-Optical-Gunsight-/150752948972?pt=UK_SportingGoods_Hunting_ShootingSports_ET&hash=item23199372ec#ht_4034wt_698 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
station Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 (edited) Thats basically not how chinese industry works. They are still a Communist Country, although you may be forgiven for forgetting that. All factories are owned notionally by the Goverment and they are told what they can make. The Chinese never copy their own goods although its a free for all on anybody else's products. For them to do a rip off on Bushnell scopes would be ripping off the government and they would regard that as treason. Thats one of the safeguards when buying stuff from China. Only buy items that you know are made there, Bushnell Simmonds etc and buy it from one of the bigger sellers direct.It actually probably works better for non shooting gear, fishing gear comes to mind and things like tennis racquets. I do take your point about the warranty but that is the risk you take. To set up a factory making fake scopes, a complicated business, would make no sense when they can get the genuine article so easily and so cheaply without the bother. So when Bushmells were made in the USA, and a Chinese factory set up to copy them, along with all manner of other optics (Binoculars being a major one). They simply stopped producing them when another Chinese company got the Bushnell contract ? I deal with a company that sources products from China - anything from light switches to bistro chairs. Whether the original is Chinese, American, British or Martian, the Chineses will copy it ! Granted, somethings are made better than the original - if you are willing to pay. Have a look on eVilbay and you'll see any number of fake Bushnells. Here's one to start you off http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bushnell-3-9x32E-Illuminated-R-G-Tactical-Fishbone-Rifle-Scope-Optical-Gunsight-/150752948972?pt=UK_SportingGoods_Hunting_ShootingSports_ET&hash=item23199372ec#ht_4034wt_698 And many more are out there I am great believer in - you pay yer money and you get yer goods ! Also, at the moment we should all be supporting local and national UK businesses, whether manufacture or importer. ATB. Edited February 15, 2012 by station Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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