Better sights for shotguns

[pin]

Just as it says. I note you can get all sorts of different ones. Not normally a fiddler, leave things alone when they work and I am breaking the clays - these intrigued me though http://www.easyhit.co.uk/ anyone use them? Or anyone using any other 3rd party sights, and what do you think of them?

[Claytons Guns]

I changed my sight to a hi-viz one Hi-Viz

 

It looks better than the original, but if i'm honest, i dont think i use the sight at all, it's more instinct when theres something flying past.

 

Steve

[dunganick]

i believe the advantage of the aftermarket sights is that they are longer and can help correct people with eye dominance issues, as if ure looking down the side of them you can tell because u see a long line not a dot.

 

Personally i just use what is on the gun.

[pin]

Cheers for the replies. I have to say the more I shoot (only been shooting clays 2 months) the more I can't remember where I actually point the gun. Like you say you just "know". Most of the time you aint pointing at the clay anyway I spose.

 

I think I save my cash for another 100 bird practice which will probably be more use in the long run

[mag-man]

Pin.........I had one of em Easy Hit ones on my Perazzi for trap for about the last 4 years, very popular in South Africa amonsgst the trap shooters over there. The site/bead is made from fibre optics, and picks up any light that is around, even in almost dark conditions you can see it amazingly well.

 

I find it being so bright, points real well which will help with your focusing during your pre shot routine.

[pin]

Thanks man, nice to hear from someone who has used one

 

I have a mate who shoots right handed but is left eye dominant. Looks like this is the best use of them as it corrects it - will be sure to pass it on to him..

[me and my lad]

both mine and my lads came with hi viz fitted as standard.

 

i find i dont really need to look for it to see it, if that makes sense

my lad (hes only 9 ) says its a lot better using it than a normal bead.

[webber]

Pin

 

I discovered a similar sight to easyhit many years ago www.unidot.com I recently ordered another from the states, including postage it was around 15 quid, against 30 quid for the easyhit. Watch out, or it will hit your pocket, easy.

 

webber

[Fenlander]

I use a easyhit sight and have used the Hi-viz ,they are both as good as each other,I find them a big help when clay shooting,and would'nt be without them now,

 

I shoot a 391 Tekneys that has a green fiber optic site as standard,but i swapped it for a easyhit which i got off Ebay for 7 quid brand new.

 

All the best Mick.

[Reg Pearce]

Pin

 

I discovered a similar sight to easyhit many years ago www.unidot.com I recently ordered another from the states, including postage it was around 15 quid, against 30 quid for the easyhit. Watch out, or it will hit your pocket, easy.

 

webber

I have one of these(easyhit) fitted to my Beretta to help with severe cross dominance. Being middle-aged doesn't help ! I also have to use a small blurring patch on the left lens of my shooting glasses. I see the red dot when I mount the gun (usually pre mounting) and then I'm totally unaware of it as I focus on the clay. I'm no expert and have only been shooting clays for about 18 months. Since fitting this device my scores have increased from the mid 30's to mid 40's (out of 50).

I think it's ugly and spoils the look of my gun (Beretta ASE Gold) but I do like breaking those clays. I stuck the sight on a strip of magnetic tape which is screwed on at the front (using the threaded hole that the standard bead fits to) and taped on at the back with some insulating tape passed through the rib and over the body of the sight.

I can't bring myself to stick it on permanently (yet) but as I said it seems to have helped my scores.

I have no connection with the makers or their agents and speak only of my own experience.

Feel free to draw your own conclusions.

 

Cheers, Reg

[pin]

Thanks for the feeback lads.

 

I do think I am faffing a bit though and probably need to learn how to shoot properly before I start changing things

 

I always do this, whatever I get into.

 

Whatever problems I have missing clays its 99% to do with me and not the gun, methinks.

 

I think the hi-vis is worth looking at, the easyhit seems expensive now considering (and I know I don't have cross dominance now).

 

Ta!

[MC]

PIN,

 

at least you have identified the problem. I couldn't tell you what sight my shotguns have as I don't use them at all. If the gun fits and points where you are looking then there is no need at all for fancy coloured fibre optic sights.

 

I will not disagree that there is a slight possibly that they help with cross eye dominance, although I don't see how. There is no substitute for practice, practice, a bit of knowledgable help and more practice.

 

My advice would be get your gun fitted, go and have a couple of lessons and join a club where you can shoot varied birds and enjoy it.

 

Cheers

 

Martin

[pin]

PIN,

 

at least you have identified the problem. I couldn't tell you what sight my shotguns have as I don't use them at all. If the gun fits and points where you are looking then there is no need at all for fancy coloured fibre optic sights.

 

I will not disagree that there is a slight possibly that they help with cross eye dominance, although I don't see how. There is no substitute for practice, practice, a bit of knowledgable help and more practice.

 

My advice would be get your gun fitted, go and have a couple of lessons and join a club where you can shoot varied birds and enjoy it.

 

Yep, joined 2 clubs, have 4 places close enough to get to for practice, and thats what I am doing - practicing - a lot Had the gun about just over a month now and I think I personally have had 2500+ shells through it!!

[MC]

That's the way to do it.

 

Make sure that you have someone who knows what they are talking about to help you, not just someone who can say "Behind it"

 

Cheers

 

Martin

[the last engineer]

PIN,

 

at least you have identified the problem. I couldn't tell you what sight my shotguns have as I don't use them at all. If the gun fits and points where you are looking then there is no need at all for fancy coloured fibre optic sights.

 

I will not disagree that there is a slight possibly that they help with cross eye dominance, although I don't see how. There is no substitute for practice, practice, a bit of knowledgable help and more practice.

 

My advice would be get your gun fitted, go and have a couple of lessons and join a club where you can shoot varied birds and enjoy it.

 

Cheers

 

Martin

 

 

with you there Martin, just listening to the endlees amounts of tried and tested methods of do this do that from countless wannabe instructors brings tears to my eyes, kinda like watching the movie "Tin Cup" , Kevin Costner with allsorts of gadgets and widgets hanging of his head.

 

theres nothing like hands on practice with someone who can walk the walk they talk, anything put on the end of a barrel that can and will draw your eye to will stop your swing every time, concentrate on your sight picture and break point then swing and hit it, a nicely fitting gun will do the rest.

 

Martin

[Catamong]

I completely agree with the comments above - fancy flourescent sights on shotguns are simply not necessary, as they will draw your eye away from the target as you constantly try and check the alignment between sight and clay, the result being a missed target.

 

They're a bit like snap caps, pigeon whistles and peckers, totally useless bits of kit designed to get newcomers who don't know any better to part with their money.

 

Cat.

[webber]

Catamong

 

Having read your post I can only conclude that you may not have tried any of the devices listed. This is a pity, as I can assure you that most of them do work, especially the unidot sight.

 

webber

[magman]

They're a bit like snap caps, pigeon whistles and peckers, totally useless bits of kit

 

dont class my pecker as useless mate , personal problem i think (brave man)

[Catamong]

Catamong

 

Having read your post I can only conclude that you may not have tried any of the devices listed. This is a pity, as I can assure you that most of them do work, especially the unidot sight.

 

webber

 

Webber,

 

If they work for you, then that's fine, and yes, I have tried those flourescent sights in the past, and they didn't work for me.

 

When you're next at a serious clay shoot, take a look at the ribs of the guns that the competition winners use - I'll bet you none of them use these fancy gimmicks..??

 

Cat

[pin]

I think at this stage for me any advice at all is greatly accepted.

 

I might try one, I might not. I know there is no substitute for practice either. 100 bird sporting Saturday for yet more practice )

[the last engineer]

I think at this stage for me any advice at all is greatly accepted.

 

I might try one, I might not. I know there is no substitute for practice either. 100 bird sporting Saturday for yet more practice )

 

Pin this is the simple answer to your dilemma.

 

if you put some fancy flouresent sight at the end of your 28"/30" barrels how do you expect to see the target at say 25-35 yards your pupils will focus on what your brain tells it, and seeing you just spent dollars on the funky front end guess where your eyes going, im not saying they dont work, they wouldnt make em otherwise, what i am saying is from your post you had written this.

 

to quote Pins first post.

 

"Just as it says. I note you can get all sorts of different ones. Not normally a fiddler, leave things alone when they work and I am breaking the clays - these intrigued me though http://www.easyhit.co.uk/ anyone use them? Or anyone using any other 3rd party sights, and what do you think of them?"

 

"NOT NORMALY A FIDDLER", leave it alone then, "AND I AM BREAKING CLAYS", You just concentrate on what your doing now my son, dont try and re-invent the wheel.

 

can i ask what percentage do you shoot/kill in clay shooting ??

 

Martin

[pin]

At the last club shoot two weeks ago (100 bird sporting) I got 79/100. New layout there every time, we move around and shoot from different places, driven, teals, tower, rabbits etc.

 

When I go to A1 or Broomhills I rarely keep score (usually have 50 bird when I am passing) and I don't miss many (but then they aint changed the layout at either place since I have been going so I don't really count what I get).

 

Being new to all this I tend to get a lot of advice if I want it or not, but one thing always crops up which is that the "true" score is the first time you shoot a layout, after that you are still learning and practicing but you have to some extent learned the layout.

 

My problem, if I have one, is lack of experience. Once I am "on 'em" I don't often miss, it just can take a while before I get the read of new targets which will only come with time (and probably not by dangling a load of flourescent bits off the front of the gun)

 

I am not trying to run before I can walk, just eager to do better and learn. Its always nice to get a feel for what people think about different shooting kit, and the whole point is a discussion on the matter, isn't it?

[the last engineer]

Pin, i hope i didnt sound like a snot when answering your questions, my point was that as i thought your hit percentage is high enough that you dont need these gizmos, just a little more steerage.

 

unlike many who look to the gun gods for another X on the score sheet, you seem to have a good grasp of the game, bells and whistles arent going to help you, in my opinion.

 

how long have you shot targets for ?

do you intend to go into competitive shooting ?

 

if in your position, i would look at the clubs top gun or instructor and stick to him/her like a fat kid on a smartie, there's no experience better than a top shooters instruction, when i got into shooting some years back i found there were two shooters here in my local club, John Primrose Canadian champ,and olympian int trap shooter , and Don Sanderlin, Canadian champ and olympian int skeet shooter, their joint skills and tuition was priceless to a rookie like me, i learnt from basic's through to top competitive level shooting skills, then moved onto sporting and matured my way into master class, its like serving an aprenticeship almost.

 

i have the privalidge of shooting with some of the best guys around IMO here in Alberta, every shoot is different every target a chalange till broken, there are no easy targets regardless of what anyone says,too many people have walked up to a stand looked and mentaly put down a 10 only to miss a couple at the end, it cost's place's trust me i know lost a few 1st place's from lack of concentration, the name of the game right.

 

anyway good luck to you with your sport, keep us posted as to how you fair down the road Pin

 

Martin

[pin]

how long have you shot targets for ?

do you intend to go into competitive shooting ?

 

Just over two months all told, about 6 weeks with my own gun. I had no intention of getting into this for competition, and I am a long way off that anyway.

 

The most important thing to me is its something I really enjoy, I love being out in the country and if I get to shoot the odd target, live or clay, all the better.

[Highlander]

a foresight on a shotgun is, to most people, totally useless. I know a number of seriously competitive clay shooters who have the originals taken off and the hole plugged.

 

If you've got a cross dominance problem (go see a vet ) it might help to fit one of those dazzlers to keep your eyesight centred as the problem with cross eye dominance is looking down the side of the barrel but otherwise you shouldn't need one.

 

As has been said another gadget to get you to part with your hard earned dosh!