cockercas Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 i know he carnt aqquire bullets but can my non FAC holder lamp man buy the following? small and large rifle primers powder case trimmer and dies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackley Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 i know he carnt aqquire bullets but can my non FAC holder lamp man buy the following? small and large rifle primers powder case trimmer and dies? he can buy dies but not powder as you need to show your ticket,he may get away with buying primers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted March 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 Chris i have some questions to ask you about bullet make up. il text you when the nippers gone to bed. and thanks ackley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted March 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 Dont leave it too late, im off to the pub with Rabbit tonight and last time i woke up wet through, fully clothed in the shower at home sat on the now broken wicker laundry basket and a lot of wet clothes. :lol: :lol: i bet the wife was happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 :lol: :lol: i bet the wife was happy Nope, she was wearing "a lot of wet clothes"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolhead Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 (edited) i know he carnt aqquire bullets but can my non FAC holder lamp man buy the following? small and large rifle primers powder case trimmer and dies? Bullet heads, Yes (unless expanding) they are uncontrolled. Small and large rifle primers - No - Violent Crime Reduction Act 2006 Section 35. Although they can have a letter of permission from a licensed person. Powder - Propellant powder Yes, Black powder No- Control of Explosive Regulations 1991 (COER) - Manufacture & Storage of Explosive Regulations 2005 - Placing On the Market and Supervision of Transfers of Explosives Regulations 1993 Case trimmer and dies? - Yes uncontrolled The shop might well refuse to sell anything though. Edited March 20, 2012 by Coolhead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackley Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 Having said that, it does all depend on the shop as some are more careful than others. very shop Ive been in inc the shows you have to produce your ticket to buy powder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Logic Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 Smokeless propellant is unrestricted to purchase, shops shouldn't be asking for a ticket to buy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foosa Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 i have had some ask to see ticket for powder and expanding heads, and some not, they ask every time for primers. Didn't they used to be an accountable item once? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Logic Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Primers have to have an FAC, expanding bullets also need one. Powder doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muggins. Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 very shop Ive been in inc the shows you have to produce your ticket to buy powder I phoned my gunshop and asked about posting powder. He said no, we need to see your ticket. Once they know you face to face it`s a different matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Logic Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 He doesn't need to see your ticket. But he can't post easily due to hazardous materials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard1951 Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 UM i think the question hear should be " Why would a non FAC Holder want or need to buy these itims." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted March 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 UM i think the question hear should be " Why would a non FAC Holder want or need to buy these itims." idiot alert, could it possibly be to save me the hours drive to the shop to pick the stuff up. please put your ******* brain into gear before you post. another person on the band wagon, another reason ive stopped signing in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard1951 Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 (edited) Could be , then again might not be just a question and one that i think was justified . Perhaps if you had explained it i would not have questioned it . Edited March 25, 2012 by richard1951 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Logic Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Oh so you think more restriction is necessary?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard1951 Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 no but i think the ones we have should be adhered to. we get enough flack without adding to it with a question on a public forum asking if it is possable to get the composit parts to build a bullet when not holding a FAC. and not explaining why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 no but i think the ones we have should be adhered to. we get enough flack without adding to it with a question on a public forum asking if it is possable to get the composit parts to build a bullet when not holding a FAC. and not explaining why. Oh for goodness sake. This is a wonderful shooting forum frequented by like minded people swapping info, asking advice and generally chatting about our sport. Why the heck should we not pose a simple question without going into infinite detail of the whys and wherefores. Anything regarding the law or guidelines on firearms, that we may say on here, is freely available both on the web and in written form from HMSO. After all it has to be so that we, the general public, can appraise ourselves of the law. I am saddened that you think law abiding sportsmen should discuss their sport behind closed doors in fear of what the "public" may say or think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Have to say I bought both primers and powder last week no questions no ticket. Best bet is phone them and ask. P.s sorry not managed to post the tricker yet it won't go in the local box and been a tad busy but it will be on the way h Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted March 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Could be , then again might not be just a question and one that i think was justified .Perhaps if you had explained it i would not have questioned it . no but i think the ones we have should be adhered to.we get enough flack without adding to it with a question on a public forum asking if it is possable to get the composit parts to build a bullet when not holding a FAC. and not explaining why. are you for real? its your sort that are bringing a good forum like this down into the gutter, ATM it seems to be full of idiots and people who have never sneezed or been outside. im sure if my lamp man wanted bullets for any reason he would just slip them into his pocket. oh no wait, he wouldnt because hes not a skanky degenarate of some skanky estate. hes trustworthy, loyal and has a decent job and his applications all filled out and ready to go. but he dose have a slab of 250 hull comp x under his bed for when we go clay shooting. so seen has he drives past the shop at least once a week he could if allowed to pick up some components, i have the expanding ammo already but i could do with a case trimmer for my .243, and seen as i have bought a .22 hornet (claimed another fox MR LOGIC) i could do with a set of hornet dies some small rifle primers a tub of h110 and a case trimmer for that to.oh and while his there he could pick me up some large rifle primers aswell. that would save me the 2hour+ drive there. hes about 6ft tall,black hair and wears a suite, he also drives a vw. now have i explained enough? crawl back into the gutter with all the other whiter than white, cow pooers, black dogs and general idiots and get the fourm back on track with people who actually want to talk/discuss shooting and all things related not trying to pick holes that arnt there. one last thing please shove your comments up your **** thanks alex no rush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 A lot of dealers do over interpret the regs because they are intimidated into doing so. Its not wrong to mention it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Logic Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 are you for real? its your sort that are bringing a good forum like this down into the gutter, ATM it seems to be full of idiots and people who have never sneezed or been outside. im sure if my lamp man wanted bullets for any reason he would just slip them into his pocket. oh no wait, he wouldnt because hes not a skanky degenarate of some skanky estate. hes trustworthy, loyal and has a decent job and his applications all filled out and ready to go. but he dose have a slab of 250 hull comp x under his bed for when we go clay shooting. so seen has he drives past the shop at least once a week he could if allowed to pick up some components, i have the expanding ammo already but i could do with a case trimmer for my .243, and seen as i have bought a .22 hornet (claimed another fox MR LOGIC) i could do with a set of hornet dies some small rifle primers a tub of h110 and a case trimmer for that to.oh and while his there he could pick me up some large rifle primers aswell. that would save me the 2hour+ drive there. hes about 6ft tall,black hair and wears a suite, he also drives a vw. now have i explained enough? crawl back into the gutter with all the other whiter than white, cow pooers, black dogs and general idiots and get the fourm back on track with people who actually want to talk/discuss shooting and all things related not trying to pick holes that arnt there. one last thing please shove your comments up your **** thanks alex no rush. Can sort you out with my old dies if interested? BTW good news on the fox. Had a deer and a fox myself yesterday, first trip out for ages! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedwards1966 Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Regarding buying powder and primers, I think that a RFD would accept it if someone was sent down with someone else's FAC certificate, along with a signed letter from the certificate holder stating that the person sent down was to buy the items required. That is enough for purchasing shotgun cartridges, however I am fairly sure it would not apply to expanding bullets though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanL Posted March 26, 2012 Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 i know he carnt aqquire bullets but can my non FAC holder lamp man buy the following? small and large rifle primers powder case trimmer and dies? Anyone can acquire bullets as long as they are not designed or adapted to expand. Powder is no problem legally but some shops will as to see a certificate. Case trimmer and dies are no problem - I suppose some dealers may ask to see a cert for the dies. You cannot acquire primers unless you have an FAC as the law requires the dealer to see the certificate and can only sell you them if you have an authority to acquire ammo suitable for use with them. So, he couldn't sell you primers if you only has an authority to possess/acquire rimfire ammo. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanL Posted March 26, 2012 Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 UM i think the question hear should be " Why would a non FAC Holder want or need to buy these itims." Making blanks? J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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