stupidsalmon Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 I've been looking for my first 12g for awhile now and have come up with this for £595: What do reckon for this price? It has Cyl. Cyl. chokes, Thanks in advance SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 You can't go wrong. Price seems good from a dealer as well. Chance your arm and ask for extra chokes and a slip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stupidsalmon Posted July 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Its fixed choke, but i'll see if he'll chuck in a case and some camo net aswell, SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Check the barrel length, and if they are less than 28 inches it could mean that they have been shortened. This means that someone has cut a couple of inches off the end and would make it virtually impossible to re-sell. G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRDS Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Dont buy it. Unless you spend a fortune getting it multi choked you will not be able to sell it as anything other than a Skeet gun and even they like a bit of choke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 it would cost about £300 to have the gun teagued or briley'd and you would make half of that money back in a private sale. Cyl and Cyl is not the end of the world, its not a bad choking, its what my dad shoots for everything and he can break everything i can with 1/4 and 1/2 teagues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Keep it within 35 yds and everything is perfick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Pffff chokes. I really don't think that it makes the blindest difference to the way 99.9% of people shoot. If it's your first gun and it fits you buy it - it's a beretta, it will be reliable, it will shoot well for you and it's cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Yup! cheap and reliable…..and your pattern will be blown to bits after 35yds. Go on, buy it………you know it makes sense. G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Ppppffff again. "Cyl and Cyl is not the end of the world, its not a bad choking, its what my dad shoots for everything and he can break everything i can with 1/4 and 1/2 teagues" And that's from someone who is currently working in a gun shop. Besides, how many new shooters do you know of that do justice to a clay 35 yards out and travelling / dropping? I rest my case. Buy the gun (as above). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 .....................did I really say that Get it,I bought a 686 3 aeons ago and it`s a topper,if I was just shooting driven(not devon screamers)game,woodpigeon from a hide or bolting bunnies then Cyl/Cyl is perfick,but I shoot wildfowl,foxes and love roost shooting,so I have a multi..................and hardly move from 1/4 - 3/4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white fox Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Ppppffff again Chokes - I've never had them on any of my guns. Have heard many clay shooters blame the chokes when they miss, my principle is - point the gun in the right place and the bird will drop. My first gun was exactly that model, used it for years with no problems. Go for it. WF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 As it was explained to me recently :- Step 1: Obtain reasonably sized bovine, preferably a cow. Step 2: Obtain largest banjo in shop Step 3: Attempt to strike cow on backside with said banjo Step 4: Practice Step 3. Lots. No really. Step 5: When cow's behind can be struck at will, consider modifying the banjo to suit This advice may or may not apply, but I am following it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 The cow/banjo simile is perfect. Chokes were invented to confuse shooters and destroy their confidence. 1/4 and 1/4 chokes No7 shot will break anything on a clay layout, in the hands of a competent shooter. I have seen shooters changing chokes between stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Unless you want to shoot skeet all your life I would agree with those that say they are a bit too open for all round use. If it was 1/4 1/4 it wouldn't be a problem. As any engineer will tell you, it is a damn site easier removing metal than it is putting it back You could buy it and fiddle about with cartridges, but there are loads of others guns out there, you don't have to buy this one even if it is cheap (which is explained by the choke situation - very limited market) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRDS Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 The resale value will be very poor, buy it at your peril. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 JRDS said: The resale value will be very poor, buy it at your peril. the purchase value is very low, you WILL loose £100 on it as gunshops need to mark up by £100 to make storing it worth the money personally i think it would be a great gun once teagued. I shot 1/4 and open for the first year i shot clays and got up to about the 35/50 mark before feeling the need to 'fiddle' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 http://www.airgunbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=131339 might be worth considering if your worried about chokes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mister Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 stupidsalmon said: I've been looking for my first 12g for awhile now and have come up with this for £595: What do reckon for this price? It has Cyl. Cyl. chokes, Thanks in advance SS hi friend I owned a couple of berettas their excellent the one you mention is well priced and looks in good nick the chocks Ar a good start as anything tighter is a wast of time if you use plastic wads but if you use felt 1/4- 1/2 choks would be beter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stupidsalmon Posted August 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Cheers for all the feedback guys I've now found a s/h 686 sporter m/c for only £600 which looks in very good nick, so i think im gonna plump for that, Anything i should look out for when buying s/h?? Cheers again SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRDS Posted August 4, 2006 Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 dunganick said: JRDS said: The resale value will be very poor, buy it at your peril. the purchase value is very low, you WILL loose £100 on it as gunshops need to mark up by £100 to make storing it worth the money personally i think it would be a great gun once teagued. I shot 1/4 and open for the first year i shot clays and got up to about the 35/50 mark before feeling the need to 'fiddle' For £600 the purchase price was expensive for a gun that has had all the choke removed, try getting a quote from the trade for putting it into them!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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