WelshLamb Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 (edited) Picked up a v.cheap baikal hushpower off a member on here . Its fair to say it was in pretty horrible condition so I've decided to have a go at restoring it. First job was to remove the last of the glue stuck all over the moderator, where it used to be covered in camo tape. I gave it a rub down with a clean rag and some petrol and was pleased to find that the shabby paint that was all over it was fairly easy to remove. The moderator is made of aluminium (looks like its home made?) so I clamped the barrel in a vise and gave it a few coats of etch primer... Then about 8 coats of matt black Spurred on by how well the barrel had turned out, I diverted my attention to the stock and fore end. A google search tells me that baikal stocks are made of walnut? This one had certainly seen better days I spent most of that evening removing the old varnish, and then sanding and sanding and sanding the woodwork until it was totally smooooth . Im now in the process of tru-oiling it. Its had about 4 coats already, but it isnt even beginning to turn the deep walnut colour that I had hoped any ideas?? All comments/views/opinions welcomed Edited June 2, 2012 by WelshLamb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 You could have coated the wood with a walnut coloured dye, before adding the Tru Oil. Tru Oil is clear, so won't add colour to wood. I would remove the Tru Oil,coat the wood with a quality dye, then seal with Tru Oil again. Steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshLamb Posted June 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 Doh! Should have asked first How do I remove the tru oil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 Doh! Should have asked first How do I remove the tru oil? Try sanding it, although Tru Oil is very tough when dried. I removed this oil once, by using a stanley knife blade and scraping the wood. Tedious, but it worked. You can get good wood stains from makers like TOPPES and BLACKFRIARS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archiebald Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 Nitromose will have it stripped perfectly in minuits! wash and leave to dry, then Sand to a glass like finnish. then stain it, then add many thin layers of hand rubbed tru-oil. atb tom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parrots2 Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 no need to remove oil ,mix stain with a good thinner 50/50 use on a cloth rub in circular motion it will pass the oil leave to dry ,the repeat or carry on with oil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 no need to remove oil ,mix stain with a good thinner 50/50 use on a cloth rub in circular motion it will pass the oil leave to dry ,the repeat or carry on with oil Tru Oil dries to a hard finish, so I don't think any wood stain would penetrate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
station Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 Tru Oil dries to a hard finish, so I don't think any wood stain would penetrate it. It may with thinners - got to be worth a try before sanding or stripping. Let us know how you get on with your project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddoakley Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 Dont be shy Jo, tell the boys and girls where you got the gun...and just how cheap? ;-) Edd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED BEARD Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 looks like you've come up trumps with the mod,if you can as good a result with the stock it'll be like a new pin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshLamb Posted June 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 Have stripped the wood this afternoon with nitromors, wiped it over with white spirit and left to dry for a week will give it a wipe over next weekend with walnut stain when I'm home from work Dont be shy Jo, tell the boys and girls where you got the gun...and just how cheap? ;-) Edd I met and bought it from a lovely young man from Cwmbran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattw Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 I met and bought it from a lovely young man from Cwmbran Yes but what about the gun :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smig4373 Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 (edited) Once youve got the oil off...alkanet oil gives wood a beautifull colour...put quite a few thin coats on..then back it off with 0000 wire wool or wet and dry...Then hand rub small amounts of tru oil in...DONT be tempted to add dye to tru oil...it doesnt work... alkanet here When you have the finish your happy with...polish with birchwood stock sheen and conditioner...it takes the shine off but leaves a lovely satin finish which is water and finger mark proof... Stock Sheen Edited June 4, 2012 by smig4373 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delbert Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 BTW not all the older Baikals were stocked in Walnut, Beech was also used which lacks the heavier grain pattern ( I had a 20 double beech stocked ) it doesn't really dye that well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straightshooter1 Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 just a quick bit of advice the best way to stain a stock is by using potassium permanganate diluted into water this is the best stuff for staining large areas alkanet root is basically added as part of an enhancing oil prior to final finnish but if you are looking to darken the entire stock and forend as you have previously mentioned the PP is the way to go stunning even colour then sand, then a enhancing walnut based oil, then your final finnish oh and by the way my preference is stay away from wire wool it's horrible stuff atb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storme37 Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 fantastic job mate i would love 1 of those Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshLamb Posted June 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 Just got back from work, a week in the south of France! Very nice!!! . Anyway the stock has had a week to dry, so gave it another good sand down and was left with this... Ive rubbed two coats of walnut stain into it this afternoon, and I honestly dont think its walnut . Here it is next to my Lincoln 20g which has stunning wood and it looks completely different! I think this stock is made from an old piece of pallet or something I'll let the stain soak in properly overnight, flat it back again and start rubbing tru-oil into it tomorrow afternoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 im sure i can see jesus in that wood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storme37 Posted June 9, 2012 Report Share Posted June 9, 2012 looking good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveo26 Posted June 9, 2012 Report Share Posted June 9, 2012 (edited) BTW not all the older Baikals were stocked in Walnut, Beech was also used which lacks the heavier grain pattern ( I had a 20 double beech stocked ) it doesn't really dye that well. And Birch York guns website used to say Beech (occasionally Birch) Now they say Walnut (occasionally Beech) Edited June 9, 2012 by Daveo26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted June 9, 2012 Report Share Posted June 9, 2012 Just paint the stock black too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshLamb Posted June 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2012 Just paint the stock black too! The thought had crossed my mind!!! Just put another coat of tru oil on it doesn't look toooo awful actually! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveo26 Posted June 9, 2012 Report Share Posted June 9, 2012 Did you try bleeching the stock before oiling to remove the traces of old stain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted June 9, 2012 Report Share Posted June 9, 2012 Apparently Baikal stocks used to be made from old railway sleepers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshLamb Posted June 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2012 Did you try bleeching the stock before oiling to remove the traces of old stain? There was no stain on it, just very scratched and chipped varnish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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