Vince Green Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 A respectable man of good character applies to the police for a FAC for a .22 rifle. When asked what he wants it for he says "I go on holiday every year to France, we hire a Gite somewhere rural I want it to take on holiday with me. There are woods and forests and in France with their egalitarian laws there is a right to roam and shoot where you like" Would he get the FAC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breastman Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Depends on which way the wind is blowing on the day Could he increase his chances by not asking for any ammo allowance i.e. buy the ammo over there (if thats possible)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Non Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 There is nothing to say your good reason has to be in this country. People have large rifles for planes game and may only go every couple of years. Would maybe only conditioned for use abroad if they had no UK good reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 (edited) A respectable man of good character applies to the police for a FAC for a .22 rifle. When asked what he wants it for he says "I go on holiday every year to France, we hire a Gite somewhere rural I want it to take on holiday with me. There are woods and forests and in France with their egalitarian laws there is a right to roam and shoot where you like" Would he get the FAC? If he had a French Hunting Permit I don't see why not (ammo may be an issue) If the chap owned the property in France but was not resident i could see it happening with the correct french paperwork. http://riviera.angloinfo.com/countries/france/hunting.asp Hunting Licences in FranceIn order to have the right to hunt in France, it is necessary to have a hunting permit (permis de chasser). Hunters have to pass a theory and practical exam before being given a licence. Both of these exams are organised by the National Hunting and Wildlife Agency, ONCFS (Office National de Chasse et de la Faune Sauvage) and are held all year round. Office National de la Chasse et de la Faune Sauvage At: 85 bis avenue de Wagram, BP 236, 75822 Paris Cedex 17 Tel: 01 44 15 17 17 Fax: 01 47 63 79 13 Website (in French): To prepare for this exam, candidates have to undergo an obligatory training course. Candidates cannot take the practical exam until they have passed the theory exam and must be at least 15 years old on the day of the theory exam. If the candidate fails one of the exams then they must begin the process again and fill in a new application form. Application procedures Candidates must contact the Departmental Hunting Federation (Fédération Départementale des Chasseurs) in their home department who will inform them of available dates for training sessions for both the theory and practical exam. Once training is complete, the Federation sends the application form to the ONCFS. The following documents are necessary for an application: photocopy of ID (passport, identity card, family record book or driving licence) registration fee The candidate will then be notified (with at least 15 days warning) of the date the theory exam will take place. The exam The theory exam includes 21 questions based on the following themes: knowledge of wildlife (recognising game and protected species, animal biology and their way of life) knowledge of hunting (different hunting techniques, knowledge and use of hunting dogs and hunting vocabulary) knowledge of the rules and laws concerning hunting policies and nature protection knowledge of arms and munitions, how to use them and security rules To pass the exam, candidates must have 16 correct answers out of 21 and must have replied correctly to the two questions concerning security. The certificate is issued by the inspectors of the ONCFS. The practical exam can only be taken once the candidate has succeeded the theory exam. Following the theory exam the candidate has 18 months to pass the practical exam. The exam has three parts: simulation of hunting, shooting with blanks target shooting test, with black targets representing species that can be hunted and red targets representing protected species or animals that can’t be hunted. shooting a moving target Any dangerous behaviour will lead to automatic failure of the exam. To pass candidates must have 16 points correct out of 21. Edited July 11, 2012 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipa Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 A respectable man of good character applies to the police for a FAC for a .22 rifle. When asked what he wants it for he says "I go on holiday every year to France, we hire a Gite somewhere rural I want it to take on holiday with me. There are woods and forests and in France with their egalitarian laws there is a right to roam and shoot where you like" Would he get the FAC? Don't see why not, as has been said, people get certain calibres conditioned only for use abroad.... The liklehood would be greatly increased by joining a GC and serving out 6 months probation.. then, a european firearms passport and bob's your uncle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 A respectable man of good character applies to the police for a FAC for a .22 rifle. When asked what he wants it for he says "I go on holiday every year to France, we hire a Gite somewhere rural I want it to take on holiday with me. There are woods and forests and in France with their egalitarian laws there is a right to roam and shoot where you like" Would he get the FAC? not without an advance booking and maybee extra confirmation that he may shoot at a given venue. Thats my thoughts but i havent a clue to be fair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 I should think that would be considered a fair request. As others have suggested they may not allow ammunition to be held here - I couldn't have expanding for my .375 because I could only zero it in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 I should think that would be considered a fair request. As others have suggested they may not allow ammunition to be held here - I couldn't have expanding for my .375 because I could only zero it in the UK. Yeah, seen that one before. An RFD i knew had this on his .416 but if it was not on his personal ticket he could have for testing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedwards1966 Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 I see absolutely no reason why that would not be acceptable. If there's a 'right to roam' then that should suffice as 'good reason'. Having read through what HDAV has posted it seems he'll probably need the permit, but once he has that then there can be no need for bookings, permission letters etc. People can get large caliber rifles for use abroad, there is no reason the same can't apply for a .22 in France. I would think he'll be able to zero in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Is the visitor permit not still in force although I'm not 100% sure (but think so) that it also applies to firearms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiedenny Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 join a club or get a permission local to your home to be sure. You will want to practice with the rifle any way, lets face it when you get it you'll be as addicted aas the rest of us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 (edited) No, unless it was to carry to and from point of disembarkation. I've been down this route when I hankered after a cheap Bettinsoli double rifle for driven boar (abroad). Bah, spoil sports eh Edited July 11, 2012 by Mungler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 No, unless it was to carry to and from point of disembarkation. I've been down this route when I hankered after a cheap Bettinsoli double rifle for driven boar (abroad). Bah, spoil sports eh Did you have a "permis de chasser" Mung? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 No just a Demi wave It was the 80's and they were all the rage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 (edited) It was the 80's and they were all the rage The 1880's......... What i dont get is why they have that big lump stick out the side for......... BTW are you sure you're not Roy Lupton? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5KUwYTFNt8 Edited July 11, 2012 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 SO what was the outcome? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 It wasn't me, so I just kept washing my hair until it fell out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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