Spaniel Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 I thought I would add this, as we have all been there, good bird in shot, then a few shots and the bird keeps flying.....god dam those cartridges http://www.basc.org.uk/en/how-to/shooting/how-much-lead-the-way-forward.cfm plus know your quarry ID http://www.basc.org.uk/en/utilities/document-summary.cfm/docid/A02E67BD-A03F-4878-BBA235E27B7A97BB Hopefully will help a few of us this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 'Forward allowance is one of the most commonly used techniques of shooting. The theory is straightforward – but deciding how much allowance a bird needs is far from simple. **** ******* tries to take a scientific approach to the big question – HOW MUCH LEAD?' I'm not sure you can apply a 'scientific' approach to shooting live quarry. Every bird is different. Everyone see's lead differently. Not everyone judges distance properly. Not everyone judges speed properly. For clays, with regular targets it may be possible, but live quarry? There's no time to apply scientific theory in the field....it's more a question of 'feel' than maths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomhw100 Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 ahh the rhetorical question! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Poon Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 Practise practise practise and more practise that's what I reckon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecooper1 Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 Practise practise practise and more practise that's what I reckon Spot on with your reply mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shropshire_Lad Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 It has to be the most frustrating thing going, learning to use a shotgun. Everyone gives their 10ps worth to anyone new as to how to do it! Everything seems to happen far too quickly, all of a blure. Practise and thinking about your shots will start to put things in place given time. There was no short cut to "how much lead" for me How often you shoot and how much can you afford to shoot has a bigger bearing on things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aga man Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 'Forward allowance is one of the most commonly used techniques of shooting. The theory is straightforward – but deciding how much allowance a bird needs is far from simple. **** ******* tries to take a scientific approach to the big question – HOW MUCH LEAD?' I'm not sure you can apply a 'scientific' approach to shooting live quarry. Every bird is different. Everyone see's lead differently. Not everyone judges distance properly. Not everyone judges speed properly. For clays, with regular targets it may be possible, but live quarry? There's no time to apply scientific theory in the field....it's more a question of 'feel' than maths. totally agree there fella, the distance thing is a major factor in air rifle shooting aswell. what seems like 30yds is often 50yds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 (edited) Forget about lead(leed),it's all in the swing!You can track the bird with your muzzles,move through the bird and pull the trigger,and miss!Or,you can SWING through the bird and pull the trigger as you blot it out,and kill it.ALL birds are moving faster than you think;have you never tracked a bird,blotted it out and missed,then whipped the barrels through for the second shot,and connected?Swing swiftly through with a good sweeping motion,blot it out,pull the trigger and the momentum of your swing will take care of lead.Try it,what have you got to lose? Forget about lead;everyone see it differently.SWIIIIING! :good:This is why I like heavy guns. Edited July 20, 2012 by Scully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniel Posted July 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 got to admit im much better when the bird catches me by surprise, no time to think just get the gun up and push through and shoot. i was also told it is all down to timing, 1, 2, 3 If i point into the corner of the wall and move swiftly across as if i was holding the gun, on the count of 2 i have travelled approx 6ft and on the count of 3 i have travelled approx 12ft,it may work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Poon Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 This topic could go on and on forever , if you have a technique that will break the clay or kill your feathered friend, keep on doing that as we all shoot in different styles, I had tuition not long ago from a top bloke called Brian Clegg , there's a few things that stick in my head about breaking clays but the best one was to watch your target as it flys through the air and see what it does before squeezing the trigger, it's certainly works for me as there are a few clays at my local club that flys out fast towards the sky but slows down after a few seconds till they nearly hover in the air, squeeze trigger, bang, broken clay :good: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 You could try giving more lead than you think is needed, then less until you kill them. It works for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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