kiffy Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 hi folks, the stock on my air arms air riles looking a bit on the rough side, has been for years... its a laquered finish on i believe walnut and could do with being sorted as the guns perfect other than that. seeing some of the refinishing jobs on here id love to have a go myself as anyone got any tips or advice? i guess what im saying is how the hell do i do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theosmith Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 remove laquer with nitro mors and scrub it with wire wool and tooth brush, remove any residue with white spirits remove any dents by steaming it with wet cloth and hot iron sand it down so no marks oil it with hands, many times wire wool or wet n dry between wax buf wax buf wax buf to the sheen u like job done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fo5ter Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 (edited) Getting the lacquer off is the hardest bit but stick at it, you might horribly regret it 5 minutes in but put the time and effort in and eventually you'll get there I recently did a beretta DT10 for a guy on here so he could sell it. the lacquer took a whole week to get off and was a real ball ache. After though it looks fantastic. My link The lacquer beretta used was polyurethane which is impervious to paint and varnish stripper (except old fashioned banned nitromors) Just get past that bit and the rest is quite easy and there are plenty of people here who can help. Just take your time and you can get a mirror smooth oil finish, better than any lacquer Edited July 31, 2012 by fo5ter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiffy Posted July 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 thanks for the replies/ lovely work on that stock, something tells me the laqer will be the hard part but im generally handy with my hands (now that doesnt sound right! :o) so would like to have a bash myself.. whats the worst that can happen.. i screw it up and end up getting it realtree dipped looks like ill be of down leekes on the weekend looking for wirewoll and nitromors or what ever stripper i can find. does steaming it with a wet cloth really get dents out? ive a few on my stock so it would be nice to sort them what oil do you reccomend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fo5ter Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 whats the worst that can happen.. i screw it up and end up getting it realtree dipped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theosmith Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 danish oil does the job nicely, any wax is fine bees wax etc yes steaming does work but steam it before doing sanding cos will make it go fluffy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straightshooter1 Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 take your time and stay away from wire wool see my post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiffy Posted July 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 which post mate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fo5ter Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 He means this one: My link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiffy Posted July 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 oh.. i did look for a thread and couldnt find one.. i must be blind thats a huge topic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clakk Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 high grade sandpaper started at 60 grit ended at 1500 grit then used tru oil after 3 coats my kestrel stock looks ace .lotsa peeps done it on here take your pick of peeps posts .nightomoors banned ?.still buy it here in rural ruralshire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 Get it hydro dipped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiffy Posted August 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 Get it hydro dipped nnooooo :o dont get me wrong i think a lot of guns look great when coated, in fact ive just this morning been dribbling over the camo bertetta a400 in this months gunmart but not a chance on my airarms. shes a 20 odd year old beauty that doesnt deserve that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiffy Posted February 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 i have finally started my air arms stock, and will be doing a shotgun stock if this goes ok... ive bought a tru-oil kit and a can of nitromors stripper, i thought the finish on my stock would have been varnish or laquer as it was a fairly cheap airgun but ive put a load of nitomors on it, left it almost an hour and nothing.. its like ive not put anything on it... does this mean its an oil finish and nitromors is pants at oil? sorry for the dumb question but im a newbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 (edited) I simply apply the Nitromors and wait 30 seconds, then scrub off with a scraper or wire wool. Don't leave it too long or it'll go crusty and dry out. Elbow grease is the name of the game here. Edited to say that you might have a polyurethane finish on your airgun which won't be shifted by Nitromors. You may need an industrial stripper or "old" Nitromors before they diluted it. Don't know where you would find it now though. Sorry. Edited February 27, 2013 by Andy135 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Poon Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 Hi kiffy , I know it's satisfying doing things yourself , but have you thought of letting a pro do the job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 Get it to Straightshooter1 if its a 20 year gun that means something to you. If your struggling to get the finish off, you could do more harm than good. Figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiffy Posted February 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) Hi kiffy , I know it's satisfying doing things yourself , but have you thought of letting a pro do the job nope, want to do it myself, ive seen the jobs some of the guys on here have done and appreciate their skill but in this case i want to do it myself for the sence of satsifaction if nothing else. dont get me wrong i know my limitations (my shotgun barrels are going to richardH) but i know i can do this.. IF i can get the finish of first Edited February 28, 2013 by kiffy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackinbox99 Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 I did the stock on my s410 last year. The laquer / varnish came off easy with some nitro mors. Be careful with wire wool over your chequering as you can damage it. I carefully recut mine using a stanly knife and it actually did a really good job of it. I used tru-oil on mine myself and it does leave a very shiny hard durable finish. I must have given it 8 or 9 coats - sanding down lightly with wire wool between coats.Only problem I found was the finish was a bit light in colour. I now wish id used something to stain the wood a bit darker first before tru oiling it. If you take your time, you can get a good finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiffy Posted February 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 thanks for that, i think ill have another go with the nitromors tonight. im lucky as the kit i have came with a stain so my plan as i like a darker stock is to test the stain on the part of the stock the but plate screws onto so its hidden if i dont like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defender Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) I did my Baikal with true oil as the varnish applied by the previous owner was wearing off I stripped it and wire wooled it and stained it but I only put one coat of stain and it looked dark enough to me but it seems to have lightened up with the loads of coats of true oil still looks loads better than it did. I also fitted a rubber butt pad as the origional one was a thin plastic one. True oil wasn't what I expected, I expected an oily sort of finish but its like varnish Edited February 28, 2013 by defender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiffy Posted February 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) looks a lot lighter but does look nice i had another go with the nitromors tonight, i might as well have rubber butter on it for the good it did.. i reokon if i polish it witha duster itll look exactly the same as it did before i started.. nitromors is ok as i put a bit on my tool board in the shed and the paint came straight off Edited February 28, 2013 by kiffy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogc Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 I used Tru oil on mine, only issue is that it comes up very glossy, looked a lot better after knocking back after a few days with 0000 wire wool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev56 Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 So is that the end result using true oil ? as you say it looks like glossy varnish. One of my guns has an oil finish which i really like, i'm about to start a strip down on another stock and i wont be using true oil if that is the end result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogc Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 So is that the end result using true oil ? as you say it looks like glossy varnish. One of my guns has an oil finish which i really like, i'm about to start a strip down on another stock and i wont be using true oil if that is the end result. Yes its a high gloss finish, but I really like it once its been knocked back. I used another oil finish on another stock, many many very thin coates, and the result was a nice sheen not highly glossed finish. It really depends how long you want to spend. For quickness i used tru oil this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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