pestcontrol1 Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 Hi all am just starting to load some 12g cartridges up mainly 70mm 1 oz and 1.1/6 and have been looking at a lot of peoples load data and advice on pw but i have read pros an cons for wad type and primers on other sites. so was wondering if any of the shotgun re-loader"s would mind passing on some of your knowledge on primer and wad type thanks in advance pestcontrol1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roughshooter Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 Best advice is to follow the recipe exactly - case, primer, powder, wad and shot. When you have some experience then changing a wad or a primer is ok but still not to be recommended Regards Graham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted August 15, 2012 Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 follow recipe. dont forget, american recipes can be hotter than the maximum pressure allowed by the CIP, because they have a higher pressure due to the saami pressure limits (12gauge) just because a recipe is written down and published, doesnt mean its ok. cook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted August 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 i am waiting for my mate to post me his reloading book up to me for some load recipes. But what i have read on the net not always names the wad or primer type. I would like to use the cx2000 primers they seem to be used in a lot of recipes and vectan powder. I am going to ring clay&game to see if i can pick powder and things up from them its only 5 min drive for me and they have data. Am i right in thinking that certain wads can be used in certain recipes.( its all different to loading up bullets ) pestcontrol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted August 15, 2012 Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 ok, what i tend to do, is find an american recipe, running at 10kpsi, the uk limit is 740bar and is around 10,500psi. so i just use that recipe with a fibre wad. it should burn well, clean and have "mediocre" performance. the speed is completely open to interpritation here. as both cip and saami have different specs for chrono data. so with the fibre wads, i tend to go for the faster burning powders such as titewad. i`m working on another, and hope it is in the same burnrate. i really dont go in to this add 10%, for fibre, then add 10% for rto, then 10% for some other trivial thing. if a high nitro powder is used then its going to be "way hot" if that is done. i get really peeved when information is published without the pressure data. that is probly the most important part, its like the rev counter on a car, using too low revs will stall the car, using exess of the pressure limits can cause damage to gun and user. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted August 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 Cheers cookoff i will be waiting for proper data before any loads are made up. But i know where your coming from with the data not been published correctly. pestcontrol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted August 15, 2012 Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 Just use 21grains of vectan as and a cx2000 in a 70mm pt case for the 28/30gram 12gauge fibre loads you are wanting to make. 4mm card and 20mm wad IIRC. It's the most standard, basic and economical load we have and it doesn't have to be any more complicated than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted August 15, 2012 Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 Just use 21grains of vectan as and a cx2000 in a 70mm pt case for the 28/30gram 12gauge fibre loads you are wanting to make. 4mm card and 20mm wad IIRC. It's the most standard, basic and economical load we have and it doesn't have to be any more complicated than that. +100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted August 15, 2012 Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 Just use 21grains of vectan as and a cx2000 in a 70mm pt case for the 28/30gram 12gauge fibre loads you are wanting to make. 4mm card and 20mm wad IIRC. It's the most standard, basic and economical load we have and it doesn't have to be any more complicated than that. Very rarely see the new AS in fibre loads these days. Have seen D20 SE . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted August 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 thanks for your comments chaps. I am off to clay and game soon spoke today via email cant wait to get started now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salopian Posted August 15, 2012 Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 Steven Dale at Clay & Game used to own Gamebore, nice man knows his stuff, may be a little pricey but then good service and help is priceless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted August 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 i went into clay and game today very help full and full of useful info and answered all the questions that i had and showed me a lot of stock that they have. Got some load data to look through all in all very friendly and help full people and i will be going back soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tin Man Work Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 C&G have been the best help to me with recent projects - I wish they were closer to where I am! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coyotemaster Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 When perusing the load recipes be advised that the fastest burning powder will almost always net you the harshest recoil. If you step down the burn rate a few notches(charts available online) and go with a medium burn rate powder for the load size you will find better crimps and less recoil as a result. Many high volume shooters have forsaken Red dot for 700X or Green Dot, just a little cooler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.