lewis2012 Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Hi all a mate of mine applying for his sgc has cabinet installed etc only problem is he has been arrested several times for assault + battery and was also remanded in custody in her majestys prisons for 3days but was released with no charges or further action taken with every arrest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stavvy Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Doesn't sound good for him. No smoke without fire and I'd not want him to have access to guns but I'm not sure what the legal approach will be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 (edited) If he isn't a prohibited person then he can apply...... Edited September 24, 2012 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 I hope they don't give him a SGC..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 This is running on two threads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsdad Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Doesn't sound like someone I would want to have any form of gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeonblasterian Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 If he has not been charged with anything he has a good chance of getting his sgc.Good luck to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxon88 Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 the system is there for a reason. lets hope the right decision is made! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr williamson Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 In my opinion any one who has been arrested for a violent crime shud not be allowed near a gun let alone apply for his/her own certificate. That shows he has a violent nature. They wont even entertain it. Lrast i wouldnt have thought so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robl Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 There is a whole world of difference between being arrested and being charged or cautioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e2000e2000e Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 There are many different principles in law, thankfully 'no smoke without fire' isn't one 'innocent until proven guilty' is as in everycase no further action, he isn't guilty of anything, so he can apply. However, if he has ever accept a caution etc. he may find it abit more tricky. He can apply for sure, but I must say as the police do have the right to deny someone as not being a fit and proper person, there maybe a cabinet going cheap! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malantone Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 (edited) Being arrested is different from being charged, we need to know the outcome of the arrests before giving an opinion. When a prisoner was released from prison he was read the firearms act, (I think this is correct) if having served less than four yrs, he was banned from owning or carrying a firearm or replica for 5 yrs. If he served four yrs or over he was banned for life. the nature of the crime didn`t matter, I assume that after five yrs he would be able to apply for a certificate, to enable him to own the said firearm. Maybe tis is where the nature of the crime comes in. I retired from the Prison service 7yrs ago so this may no longer be correct Edited September 26, 2012 by malantone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanL Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 Hi all a mate of mine applying for his sgc has cabinet installed etc only problem is he has been arrested several times for assault + battery and was also remanded in custody in her majestys prisons for 3days but was released with no charges or further action taken with every arrest Anyone can apply - doesn't mean everyone will get it though. The police will know all of this so it will be up to them. It will depend on the particular circumstances of each incident how long ago it was, etc, etc. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanL Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 In my opinion any one who has been arrested for a violent crime shud not be allowed near a gun let alone apply for his/her own certificate. That shows he has a violent nature. They wont even entertain it. Lrast i wouldnt have thought so There are lots of people who have been arrested yet have done nothing. An arrest is not a conviction. We have courts to ascertain guilt. One would presume that you will willingly give up your certs if you are ever mistakenly arrested for a 'violent' crime or does this opinion of yours only apply to other people? J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanL Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 Being arrested is different from being charged, we need to know the outcome of the arrests before giving an opinion. When a prisoner was released from prison he was read the firearms act, (I think this is correct) if having served less than four yrs, he was banned from owning or carrying a firearm or replica for 5 yrs. If he served four yrs or over he was banned for life. the nature of the crime didn`t matter, I assume that after five yrs he would be able to apply for a certificate, to enable him to own the said firearm. Maybe tis is where the nature of the crime comes in. I retired from the Prison service 7yrs ago so this may no longer be correct It's time you are sentenced to not served. If you have been given a sentence of between three months and three years then you are prohibited for five years. If you have been sentenced to to more than three years you are prohibited for life. You can apply to a court to have both types of prohibition lifted. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malantone Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 It's time you are sentenced to not served. If you have been given a sentence of between three months and three years then you are prohibited for five years. If you have been sentenced to to more than three years you are prohibited for life. You can apply to a court to have both types of prohibition lifted. J. yes your right the old memory aint what it used to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 To be wrongly arrested once would be unusual. Twice would be very unusual. To have been arrested a number of times and spent time in prison - albeit in custody - is stretching credulity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malantone Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 Time will tell, keep us informed please, I`m interested as to the outcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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