Need help with fitting cabinet

[Liam-1990]

Come to fit my new 5 gun cab at my house so I can get rid of the cab at my mums and keep the guns at mine, picked a good spot for it against a solid wall came took a section of skirting board off,

marked the holes and drilled them then went to fit the rawl bolts and the wall is lined with plaster board and the adhesive is raising it about an inch from the block work so I cant get the plugs to bite without them pulling out into the plaster board,

is there a way round this without cutting the plaster board out as my house is rented and could do without removing it, I have permission to fit it but did ask if I could chop the plasterboard out.

[jacew]

By the sounds of it you need longer rawl plugs etc, i use anchor bolts which dont need plugs they screw straight into the wall all you need is a pilot hole slightly smaller than

the bolt itself.

Hope that helps

John

[Dougy]

You could use threaded bar and resin,(screw fix) do a search for securing cabinet or simalar (top right of the board)

[Liam-1990]

Thats what Im using but they keep pulling out the hole despite using the correct size hole they just arnt biting until there upto the plaster board.

[BigG]

I also have new house with plasterboard go for the chemical anchor solution. Works very well.

 

Gav

[Rupert]

Yep the resin anchor and treaded bar is the way

[Liam-1990]

Anyone got a link to the stuff you used ?

[Liam-1990]

Would this be stuff be ok ? http://www.screwfix.com/p/r-kem-styrene-free-injection-fixing-300ml/72100#

[Northamptonclay]

That's the stuff, set the anchors in and leave overnight, then bolt away to your hearts content

[Liam-1990]

Great ! thanks for the help will get some tomorow

[flynny]

Make sure you blow the dust out of the drilled hole before inserting the resin and the threaded rod mate, it gets a better key to the brick/ block work, tis simples,

 

Atb flynny

[Northamptonclay]

Or suck it out with the vac , saves buying a blower

[hillmouse]

If you are using expanding rawlbolts where you screw the bolts in to the threaded sleeves a simple way and one which I can assure you works, is to simply wrap the expending part in loo roll. One turn stops them slipping outwards before they expand to grip the masonry.

 

If it is the ones with the studdin and you tighten a nut on the thread this method seems not to work.

[halfbee]

You're supposed to brush out the holes before injecting the resin, depending on the diameter of the hole drilled you could use a 410 bore brush.

[Liam-1990]

Thanks for the replys very helpful will be getting the chemical anchor tommorow will let you know how i get on with it

[pigeon pete]

if you are useing anchor bolts , measure the gap between the back of the bolt face and the face of the expanding plug ,then cut a piece of copper pipe or plastic pipe to the measurement you took ,insert the the bolt into the sleeve and then back into the plug ,then when you tighten up the bolt the sleeve will stop the plug from coming out and it will expand in the hole and then take grip ,we do this on wall plates ,if you want PM me and i will do a photo if you want

[jeremy]

I used anchor bolts as well just pilot hole needed screw in bolt with socket and ratchet all sorted no resin or anything very easy / simple they passed my box no prob at all........

[beeredup]

threaded bar an resin all the way!!!

[jacew]

Got to agree anchor bolts are brill assuming you have the correct sized pilot hole, but think you will defo have to use resin and threaded bar for this one due to having larger holes.

Let use know how it went...

[Jonty]

Liam, if you go down the resin & threaded bar route, and it's a rented house as you say. When you move, rather than try and cut the threaded bar off when you're tidying the house up. If you tread two nuts onto the bar and then lock them against each other you can unscrew the bar from the resin using a spanner on the nut nearest the wall. It'll save a lot of grief with the landlord.

[pigeon pete]

thunder bolts ,go to your local builders yard and get a few of theses and the right size drill bit for them,

http://www.transtools.co.uk/store/prod_6147/screws-and-fixings/fixings/thunderbolts/thunderbolts-m10-x-100mm-concrete-masonry-fixing-bolts-50-pack.html

[DSPUK]

I rented a house for 2 yrs and that had dab and plaster - what I did was mark where cabinet was to go - I drilled three 2" holes in plasterboard - filled back of plaster up with runny dab mixture put in with mortor squeezy gun - when it was dry I used sleeve bolts - about eight evenly spaced - solid as rock - when i left it was easy to fill holes and smooth off and paint it over - couldn't tell there had been a cabinet on wall - I also put it on top of skirting board- it passed no problem.

 

dave

[halfbee]

If you tread two nuts onto the bar and then lock them against each other you can unscrew the bar from the resin using a spanner on the nut nearest the wall. It'll save a lot of grief with the landlord.

 

Brilliant advice, thanks.

 

I was thinking what to do if I swap a 3 gun for a 5 gun cabinet.

[TaxiDriver]

Brilliant advice, thanks.

 

I was thinking what to do if I swap a 3 gun for a 5 gun cabinet.

Buy 2 more guns #Simples

[Liam-1990]

Fitted cabinet using the chemical anchor put 4 threaded bars in and 2 locking nuts on each and 2 smaller studs into the plaster board, passed with flying colours.

Thanks for the help all