mad1 Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 hi all .. I have been offered a cz 223 I was just wanting to know what you lot thought of these and also what is the twist etc and also what gr would you recomend ?? It's a heavy varm barrel type Many thanks M1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregthegreat Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 (edited) I've not got the varmint barrel on mine but I believe it's the same 1:12" twist. Mine shoots all Federal ammo I've tried from 40grn to 55grn be it softpoint or ballistic tipped with great accuracy. Last check zero conducted quickly off the wing mirror acheived three rounds on the shoot n see target that I only needed one small patch (roughly 1p size) to cover at 100yds. I've tried Norma 50grn's but they didn't group anywhere near as well as the Federals. I've stuck with 40grn Federal ballistic's with a 200yd zero which puts them just over an inch high at 100yds. The set trigger is a useable feature but I personally wouldn't use it in the field as it is so sensitive. On the range it would be very useful. The trigger itself seems to have a decent range of adjustment and is fully tuneable. Edited October 6, 2012 by Gregthegreat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redtailhawk1 Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 As above think it is 1 in 12, same with amo. Just point n shoot. With 40 grain it was flat at 200yds. can't fault mine and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicykillgaz Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 It says the varmint is 1in9 here and the American is 1-12 http://www.cz-usa.com/products/view/cz-527-varmint/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregthegreat Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 It says the varmint is 1in9 here and the American is 1-12 http://www.cz-usa.com/products/view/cz-527-varmint/ I wondered about that but I think it depends on the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicykillgaz Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 Post 2002 527 varmints have a 1-9 twist 2001 and before had 1-12 apparently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad1 Posted October 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 (edited) Thanks for your input so far !! So you would recomend a 200 yd zero which gives 1" high at 100 yd using 40gr ballistic Just so I can stock up on them Edited October 6, 2012 by mad1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 They will shoot 55gn SP OK though I'm assuming? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 (edited) both twists are available the kevlar varmint has 1-9 and the std wood 1-12 i think. The 527 is although widely sold still one of the most underrated centrefires in the UK. Either will shoot the 55grn (depending on brand) but the 1-9 will also handle the heavier .224 bullets available. If its only ever going to fire 55's there is nothing wrong with 1-12 Edited October 6, 2012 by kent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 Just bought a cz 527 kevlar 24" varmint barrel 1:9" twist rifle with a ase northstar mod. on with setting it up at the moment need more range time. Using ppu 55gr at the moment and its zeroed at 100yrds as dont have the distance available without disturbing the neighbours. Getting a 3 shot half inch group at 100yrds,by a novice. we stuck around 12 bullets on a machbox size area between two different shooters also. I think in the hands of the right man this riffle would put bullet on bullet at 100yrds ammo and conditions permitting. The rifle itself seams very well made and the coatings,fittings,mechanical parts and fit seam very well produced. This rifle will be a keeper for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 For some reason these are not fashionable rifles, and they are much underrated in my experience. Fine bits of kit but personally I have no use for heavy barrels for field use! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregthegreat Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 Thanks for your input so far !! So you would recomend a 200 yd zero which gives 1" high at 100 yd using 40gr ballistic Just so I can stock up on them For foxing, personally yes due to the flatter trajectory. Ammo choice is often a personal thing though so I'd suggest buying a few different weights/brands and trialling them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redtailhawk1 Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 Thanks for your input so far !! So you would recomend a 200 yd zero which gives 1" high at 100 yd using 40gr ballistic Just so I can stock up on them I set zero at 100yds because I will not be shooting foxes much more than that. My personal furthest fox was 210yds with 40g and straight shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 I quite like the look of those 527s. There are a few about for what seem like decent prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redtailhawk1 Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 I quite like the look of those 527s. There are a few about for what seem like decent prices. They are not too heavy to carry around either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 They will shoot 55gn SP OK though I'm assuming? Not the best test I know, but mine is a 1-12 Lux and the only 55's I have shot through it were AE FMJ's, and they shotgunned at 100 yards. Other than that it is consistently accurate, and remains a firm favourite of mine and any one else who shoots it. Bit agricultural maybe if you are being hyper critical, but like their rimfires, they get the job done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 Thanks for your input so far !! So you would recomend a 200 yd zero which gives 1" high at 100 yd using 40gr ballistic Just so I can stock up on them I wouldn't stock up on anything until you have tried them! The 40g have a use and fly flat for a while but then run out of steam. Twist rates are important as a guide, but individual barrels often throw the unexpected at you as well. My .223 T3 Lite Stainless is 1-8, it shoots everything between 40-80g well but I major on 50-55g V-Max or SP! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redtailhawk1 Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 I wouldn't stock up on anything until you have tried them! The 40g have a use and fly flat for a while but then run out of steam. Twist rates are important as a guide, but individual barrels often throw the unexpected at you as well. My .223 T3 Lite Stainless is 1-8, it shoots everything between 40-80g well but I major on 50-55g V-Max or SP! I agree, if I was going to push it any further I would use 50g Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregthegreat Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 I agree, if I was going to push it any further I would use 50g I agree the heavier bullet does carry more punch at 200yds or so but I'm shooting regular foxes around 200yds with 40grn Federal's without concern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmerguy.22 Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 Very good rifle, mine is the varmint. I use 55gr federal ballistics through it. Not cheap but very good. Zeroed at 200yds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alycidon Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 I run a 527 in a smaller caliber, it is a surprisingly good rifle. For years I turned my nose up at CZs then I bought one. ok its been breathed on a bit and the trigger lightened, its sweet. A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 Does the CZ one have that hair trigger feature where you push it forward? I know the 243 does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 Does the CZ one have that hair trigger feature where you push it forward? I know the 243 does. The single set trigger is the norm i think but you can get a non set trigger via special order. Note: if you need to make the gun safe after setting the trigger engage safety, pointing in a safe direction now press the trigger- the gun should not go off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 For some reason these are not fashionable rifles, and they are much underrated in my experience. Fine bits of kit but personally I have no use for heavy barrels for field use! The varmint in the 527 aint a heavy gun and can be shot off hand by any healthy bloke, shoten the tube some and its very handy with a moddy on aswell. Compared to my 308 varmint Remington 700 pss scoped up that weighed 15 1/2 lb without a moddy, its a featherweight and Albert888's is lighter than the average .243 sporter i recon before he put the moddy on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 Thanks! The hair trigger on the 243 I tried was scary, breathe on it and bang. Unmoderated too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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