pigeon pete Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 hi all ,after seeing the post on the 410 no4 enfield ,i thought humm my lass could do with a 410 as she want to go shooting with me , i then started looking at 410 shotguns ,yes you can get a cheap webley for £50 ,i knew back some many years ago when i had a 410 the carts were dear and they still are ,well my point is why are you paying more money for something that has half the amount of plastic / powder / and lead in them ?? sorry if this has been up on PW before its a big forum ,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parapilot Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 Quantity mate, 12 are cheaper cos they make a lot more of them, I see your point tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon pete Posted October 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 Quantity mate, 12 are cheaper cos they make a lot more of them, I see your point tho. i see what your saying but its like the price of fuel ,if they were to lower the price people would buy more ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillmouse Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 I sell about 30,000 12 bore cartridges to every 1000 .410 cartridges. We specialise in small bore guns so other outlets probably have even less sales for them. Economy of scale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 The .410 really is a good little gun to start loading yourself. As you say they use very little consumables and it's not too hard so I'm led to believe. I'm on the lookout for an old school reloader for mine. As soon as I find one on the cheap I'm going to give it a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tod Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 i think if you are going to use one on a regular basis reloading is the only way to go as the lost ones i bought were 7.50 a box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 Its the simple economics of supply and demand. People buy 12s by the pallet load. .410s they buy a box, the child has a few shots and thats the end of it normally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanj Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 £6.10 per box for eley fourlongs (2 1/2") at midland (think it was from clays r us) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 £6 per 25 fibre eley 3" 18grm. Gonna reload when i need to use more its seriously cheap to load for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flazz Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 Fiocchi 3" mags 19gram no 6 shot £235 per Thousand, from Ingleby Gun's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicykillgaz Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 Eley four longs are £5.50 at my local and fiocchi magnum 19g no6 are £65 for 250. I've said before people look at it as in terms of grs of lead for x amount I look at it as 250 shots for x amount. I've paid more than £65 for 250 12b shells and shot less than with the .410 shells I paid the same amount for. It's not how much lead that's in the cartridge that counts its where you point it. I love .410's! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon pete Posted October 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 Eley four longs are £5.50 at my local and fiocchi magnum 19g no6 are £65 for 250. I've said before people look at it as in terms of grs of lead for x amount I look at it as 250 shots for x amount. I've paid more than £65 for 250 12b shells and shot less than with the .410 shells I paid the same amount for. It's not how much lead that's in the cartridge that counts its where you point it. I love .410's! iam not disputing what you can do with a 410 ,it was the amount of money for half the goods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.I.A Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 I pay around £10 more per slab for my .410's than I do my 12's always thought the same, half the materials and all.... I certainly see reloading these as a cost effective way of keeping mine fed, that and I love the idea of producing my own tailor made carts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicykillgaz Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 Just read that back Pete it did seem a bit nobbish, sorry mate. I do agree prices are high but until we start using them in equal quantities to 12g were all stuck with it, it's a shame though as like you say half the lead you'd expect to pay less. as i said mate i just try to think of it in terms of 250 shots for x amount and it keeps my simple mind happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedwards1966 Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 I've got a couple of .410's and I really like them. Light to carry, effective, quiet and not as common as a 12. But I do resent the cartridge prices. I pay £6.50 per box, which is a bit more than the equivalent 12 bore cartridges. The fact that you have half of everything in them is what annoys me, they should be half price. A great cartridge to use, but terrible value for money. If they were half the price, I'd happily use them much much more. Supply and demand though, it's not about to change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon pete Posted October 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 Just read that back Pete it did seem a bit nobbish, sorry mate. I do agree prices are high but until we start using them in equal quantities to 12g were all stuck with it, it's a shame though as like you say half the lead you'd expect to pay less. as i said mate i just try to think of it in terms of 250 shots for x amount and it keeps my simple mind happy. no worrys bud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 In 1964, Eley 'Extra Long' .410 were 19s 6d for 25. (98pence), Eley 'Grand Prix' 12 gauge 30 gram were 15s 0d (75pence) for 25. It has always been this way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 (edited) In 1964, Eley 'Extra Long' .410 were 19s 6d for 25. (98pence), Eley 'Grand Prix' 12 gauge 30 gram were 15s 0d (75pence) for 25. It has always been this way. You might even have to break in to that white fiver soon Look around some good gunshops are £54 a slab Deershooter Edited October 9, 2012 by deershooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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