colin lad Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 hi all i am getting my cz .222 screw cut monday so what mod would you guys recommend colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitloop Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 pes Small Muzzle Can 224 STS .i have one on my .222 and works ace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted October 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 pes Small Muzzle Can 224 STS .i have one on my .222 and works ace what sort of price are they mate colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remmy1100 Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 my mate has a atec ccm4 allumium mod on his does a good job and very light plus you can buy seperate bits to add on to make quieter if needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 There are plenty out there and plenty of prices. Personally I consider the P8 COMPACT offers a good package of suppression, size, weight, price, its easy to strip and clean and easy to convert to other calibres (should you so wish)! Not a whole lot to choose between any of them in performance, it gets personal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitloop Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) i think i paid about £250 but its all stainless steel no you cant strip it but ive never needed to its had over 1000 rounds thrugh it. origanally i was looking at a over barrle mod but was advised aganst it by a exalent gun smith.and i have been asked what mod it was a couple of times as its so quiet Edited October 11, 2012 by fruitloop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted October 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 i got the gun as a cheep fox set up was not going to mod it but after a few zeroing shots its a tad loud so looking for a cheaper end mod but still one thats capable colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitloop Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 might be best looking for a second hand mod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted October 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 might be best looking for a second hand mod so when i go to get screw cut done are there different size screw fittings or are they universal ?? colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) so when i go to get screw cut done are there different size screw fittings or are they universal ?? colin There are several, the most common in the UK for this calibre would be 1/2"UNF. EDIT This will just give you an idea of the threads about and the number of different calibre inserts available (for some mods) http://www.wildcatrifles.co.uk/sound_moderators.htm Edited October 11, 2012 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 Indeed there are different threads, at a guess 1/2 unf I think is pretty common. Cost is another matter there isn't much choice under £200 but worth looking second hand and checking where you get it cut doesn't have any about. As said the compact wildcat is worth a look if you can find one or a decent condition T8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitloop Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 a good gun smith will want to know what mod you are going to fit as not all 1/2"unf are threded to the same tolerances.yes it will go on but it might be a tight or loose fit to the threds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barney 66 Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 atec cmm4 sold my predator 8 compact for one of these the weight difference makes for far better handling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markws80 Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 i think i paid about £250 but its all stainless steel no you cant strip it but ive never needed to its had over 1000 rounds thrugh it. origanally i was looking at a over barrle mod but was advised aganst it by a exalent gun smith.and i have been asked what mod it was a couple of times as its so quiet Can i ask why a over barrle mod but was advised aganst it by a exalent gun smith? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillmouse Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 If you are likely to fire several shots in succesion I would not advise the ally models. They heat up very quickly and "miraging" will obscure the scope image. If you are just foxing then it should not be an issue. Personally I would go for a Stainless steel moderator. Marginally heavier but no risk of corrosion. I would be annoyed if I found a T8. Nasty tinny rotbox barrel eating piece of junk and not that much cheaper than something that will last forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacew Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 T8 are good and quiet, North Star are also very good but a little heavy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 T8's are fine if you take them off and clean fairly regularly, no problems here with over barrel mods either. Both my .223 and .243 have them with no effects on accuracy. The one thing to remember is take the mod off after every use and don't store with it on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitloop Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 It damages the bluing on the barrel on the rifle and not as quiet as a end can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 never noticed it but one is stainless and the other black. What you gain is a shorter overall length which is handy when you shoot from a vehicle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white van man Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 At the end of the day they all have good and bad points. I have an Ase utra jet which is over the barrel but does not require bushing ,I switch it between my .270 and 243, I've also tried it on my 22.250, the latter seems better balanced with a T8 which is also bushed for the .270. The choice is endless. Would be interested to know what you go for in the end and why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewsher500 Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 It damages the bluing on the barrel on the rifle and not as quiet as a end can that doesnt make any sense the larger internal volume of the overbarrel mods gives much better sound reducing characteristics compared to smaller muzzle mounted one. most relevant here is internal bore. get one that is as small as possible if you can. i use a PES T12 Scout. shorter than the standard PES overbarrels. mine has a 6.5mm bore and I use it on everything from .243 down to .17M2/HMR on the .243 in direct comparison it kicks the **** of all the ASE Ultras and 3rd eye mods in the same calibre. (we had this on a range with 4 rifles side by side) on the .222 it is actually quieter than the when on the WMR (more or a bass crack than a sharp crack) not shceap but stainless and strippable give Steve Kershaw a ring, he has a range Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stan68 Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 that doesnt make any sense the larger internal volume of the overbarrel mods gives much better sound reducing characteristics compared to smaller muzzle mounted one. most relevant here is internal bore. get one that is as small as possible if you can. i use a PES T12 Scout. shorter than the standard PES overbarrels. mine has a 6.5mm bore and I use it on everything from .243 down to .17M2/HMR on the .243 in direct comparison it kicks the **** of all the ASE Ultras and 3rd eye mods in the same calibre. (we had this on a range with 4 rifles side by side) on the .222 it is actually quieter than the when on the WMR (more or a bass crack than a sharp crack) not shceap but stainless and strippable give Steve Kershaw a ring, he has a range I went the other way I sold my t12 scout and bought a ase northstar. Never regretted it once! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 ASE Utra Jet Z for me http://www.aseutra.fi/jet-z-cqb-suppressor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 the failing in most suggestions is the requirement for the mod to be cheap. Personally I'm not sure what there is sub £200 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitloop Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 (edited) that doesnt make any sense the larger internal volume of the overbarrel mods gives much better sound reducing characteristics compared to smaller muzzle mounted one. most relevant here is internal bore. get one that is as small as possible if you can. i use a PES T12 Scout. shorter than the standard PES overbarrels. mine has a 6.5mm bore and I use it on everything from .243 down to .17M2/HMR on the .243 in direct comparison it kicks the **** of all the ASE Ultras and 3rd eye mods in the same calibre. (we had this on a range with 4 rifles side by side) on the .222 it is actually quieter than the when on the WMR (more or a bass crack than a sharp crack) not shceap but stainless and strippable give Steve Kershaw a ring, he has a range it was steve that advised me on the mod as i was looking at a over barrle mod origanly but was advised agansed them Edited October 12, 2012 by fruitloop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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