silver pigeon 3 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 1/4 for steel in 3's or 4's if the range is shorter. Bismuth treat as lead and if your wallet stretches to Tungsten then 1/4 again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Kelly Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 P~MT. The regs in England and Wales are clearly that all ducks and geese must be shot with non toxic. If the laws are more sensible on Northern Ireland, then you're lucky, but you should be aware there is a difference and the OP was, presumably, asking about shooting in England or Wales. Choke wise, I doubt it matters much at flight pond ranges. IC and 1/4 would be fine I'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P~MX Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Not in England and Wales mate, best go back and read that part again... I retract my last the above post was @ Mongre for his statement about me being an 'active hunter' I've probably shot more than mong will ever get to see !! the original question had nothin to do with steel shot Or wetlands -- the chap said he was shootin over a "pond" . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 the above post was @ Mongre for his statement about me being an 'active hunter' I've probably shot more than mong will ever get to see !! the original question had nothin to do with steel shot Or wetlands -- the chap said he was shootin over a "pond" . Great, but you cannot shoot any wildfowl, in England and Wales, with lead ... AT ALL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washwildfowler Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 (edited) the above post was @ Mongre for his statement about me being an 'active hunter' I've probably shot more than mong will ever get to see !! the original question had nothin to do with steel shot Or wetlands -- the chap said he was shootin over a "pond" . well let me be the first to congratulate you on that..... please everyone a round of applause for p~mx ..for his shooting more widfowl than mongrel has seen ....... now i am being a smart **** ... because that last reply was out of order ..... Edited October 21, 2012 by washwildfowler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 (edited) the above post was @ Mongre for his statement about me being an 'active hunter' I've probably shot more than mong will ever get to see !! the original question had nothin to do with steel shot Or wetlands -- the chap said he was shootin over a "pond" . Yeah, very grown up, don't usually get called Mong by people wih an IQ over 25 but that's me making more assumptions! As such a prolific shooter I am slightly disappointed that you don't realise that there are different regulations in different parts of the UK. You may be able to shoot wildfowl over stubbles with lead in Co. Antrim, but you can't in Carlisle or come to that anywhere else in England or Wales. It is as simple as, if you shoot wildfowl ANYWHERE in England and Wales, you must use non toxic. Edited October 21, 2012 by -Mongrel- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P~MX Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 the OP's question was "I would like to know what chokes everyone uses for ducks over a small pond" this would indicate to me this was about choke to kill distance ratio ! he chap didn't say where he intended on shootin nor did I suggest he should shoot lead shot anywhere, I didn't once say he or anyone could,should or does shoot lead shot at wildfowl in England or Wales - the topic was about choke constriction ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washwildfowler Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 (edited) the OP's question was "I would like to know what chokes everyone uses for ducks over a small pond" this would indicate to me this was about choke to kill distance ratio ! he chap didn't say where he intended on shootin nor did I suggest he should shoot lead shot anywhere, I didn't once say he or anyone could,should or does shoot lead shot at wildfowl in England or Wales - the topic was about choke constriction ! correct but you said using 5s or 6s and i said IF using steel , i would NOT reccomend using 5s or 6s but 3s , then you went all defensive.. but NO-WHERE in my first reply did i say he had to use steel shot ... edited to say could a moderator please tidy the thread up ... because reading back through the thread it looks like there has been crossed wires ... Edited October 21, 2012 by washwildfowler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P~MX Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 i would not recommend using 5s or 6s ,if your using steel , i would say drop to 3s. on the coast 3s and 1s and BBs for geese . fella I never mentioned steel shot -- you did !! it had nothin to do with the original question -- the chap wanted to know what we chokes ( it's the first post - read it again ) we all used to shoot over a pond ! I'm out -- bye bye ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washwildfowler Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 (edited) fella I never mentioned steel shot -- you did !! it had nothin to do with the original question -- the chap wanted to know what we chokes ( it's the first post - read it again ) we all used to shoot over a pond ! I'm out -- bye bye ! Now i know i'm not this stupid , but how many times do i have to say this when it's in black and white... I ******* SAID IF HE WAS GOING TO USE STEEL ,I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND HIM USING 5S OR 6S SIZE SHOT THINKING THE SHOT SIZE WOULD NOT BE SUITABLE FOR DUCKS .... I WAS REPLYING TO YOUR REPLY ... YES I KNOW I MENTIONED STEEL ..IM NOT DISPUTING THAT AT ALL ..... Edited October 21, 2012 by washwildfowler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Hi I would like to know what chokes everyone uses for ducks over a small pond I normally use a 1/4 or a 1/2 for pigeons and crows but a friend of mine uses cylinder for pigeons and ducks over ponds thanks for your replies I'm using a benelli m2 and I've a benelli super black eagle 2 I used 1/4 last year and gone to 1/2 this year which is a kicks high flyer. The bit that seems to be missing in all the other post is,if unsure patteren test the choke gun cartridge and distance then you will no for sure whats happening at the target point also good to find if your gun fit-mount is good. Oh and the main thing is enjoy yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alros01 Posted October 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Thanks for all your replies it is over a small pond that I will be shooting on.ive been putting barley down but from we're I will be shooting it will be no more than 15 to 20 yards and yes know that I've not to use lead thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washwildfowler Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 (edited) Thanks for all your replies it is over a small pond that I will be shooting on.ive been putting barley down but from we're I will be shooting it will be no more than 15 to 20 yards and yes know that I've not to use lead thanks again top stuff , i hope you have some good sport ..... WW Edited October 21, 2012 by washwildfowler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler12 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 I use 1/4 choke for ALL my wildfowling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 I used 1/4 last year and gone to 1/2 this year which is a kicks high flyer. The bit that seems to be missing in all the other post is,if unsure patteren test the choke gun cartridge and distance then you will no for sure whats happening at the target point also good to find if your gun fit-mount is good. Oh and the main thing is enjoy yourself. Yep, not least because different shells will perform differently in different gun and or choke combinations. Pattern first if it all gappy at your chosen range window increase coke if its too tight use something more open. If you can't get something your happy with try some different shells. required 1. large square of ply 2. roll of lining paper or sheets of card 3. staple gun or tape. Plus gun cartridges and chokes. Take nothing for granted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 I live in N. Ireland using both lead over fields and HP steel over wetlands. My chokes dont change regardless. If using an o/u my chokes are 1/4 and 1/2 for lead and HP steel. If using semi auto I have 1/2 choke in for both. Maybe I'm just lazy but if you put the right address on the shot, the ducks come down. Note to self ..... I must check my checks arent stuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exmarksman9870 Posted November 4, 2012 Report Share Posted November 4, 2012 i had an old vw scirocco it never had a good choke and was running on half ,,,,just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfbee Posted November 4, 2012 Report Share Posted November 4, 2012 My old Mini wouldn't run 1/4 choke, anything under a 1/2 it would fly back to Cyl by itself. Just to make it clear, this was back in the day when Petrol stations sold Leaded No. 4 quite legally in England and Wales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve0146 Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 Gotta love pigeon watch at times. Put a thread on and people fall out. Personally use 1/2 choke for all my wildfowling. However, have some hevishot to try and found it patterns better through 1/4. Try you cartridges through different chokes at the range you expect ducks and make your decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exmarksman9870 Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 My old Mini wouldn't run 1/4 choke, anything under a 1/2 it would fly back to Cyl by itself. Just to make it clear, this was back in the day when Petrol stations sold Leaded No. 4 quite legally in England and Wales. yes the good old days bring back 4 star at 25 p a litre hahaha class Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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