Theskyfox Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 Hi, I was just browsing on guntrader and noticed there was a topic about a possible airgun power change? It seems to be just rumours at the moment and Ive emailed BASC to find out if its true or not...but basically some people are suggesting that airgun power may be reduced to 7ftlbs? I can't find any information on the net to back these claims so don't panic just yet lol....but if anyone knows any information do tell? Thanks -Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 The home affairs committee has made recommendations to the government following a review of current legislation. As part of that work there was a recommendation that the government establish at what power an air weapon becomes "lethal". Lethal being the definition which classifies weapons as section 1 firearms. As far as I know there has been nothing coming back from the government about specific findings, though in my own view this is a review which is looking at the question "is 12ftlb the right number or not". Quite what they would do if they decided the current limit was now to be considered "lethal" is beyond me, see pages and pages of discussion on here regarding licensing air weapons and how difficult this would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcha Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 Thats the stupidest thing I've ever heard in my entire life. You can just put the power back up again, thus nothing atall is achived except some very annoyed honest people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theskyfox Posted September 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 I really hope they don't change it, but if they do I'm gonna have to apply for a FAC....the only good thing I can see is that if I can do that then I could get my PCP ramped up to a decent 18 or 20ftlbs or so.... -Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 There will be a LOT of FAC applications if that does go through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 The police would hopefully resist the need for loads of people to apply for FAC as it would further increase their workload. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 The police would hopefully resist the need for loads of people to apply for FAC as it would further increase their workload. They might need to be reminded of that! Might give them somthing to push with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 Gun crime is on the increase and there is never a week going by without someone being shot with a air rifle .The punishment if any nevers fits the crime so no detterent .........So brace yourself the vast majority of law abiding people for the Knee jerk re-action of this government . 7 ft lbs meaning a target rifle only .........any higher being on a ticket and as for the Police's workload it'll stay the same ......new applicants will heve to wait up to a year for their visit from the FEO as a result of the back log though . Only summising btw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theskyfox Posted September 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 Ive, where did you get this information from? or is it just from the above? -Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 As with all "committee" work there will be pro's and cons. I would be extremely surprised if the government did do something about it to be honest, given the obvious implications if they did. Then thinking about that they banned pistols after dunblane which was a completely pointless move which I am sure they were fully aware of. Nothing would surprise me with this "government". Big Sigh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kipper Posted September 23, 2006 Report Share Posted September 23, 2006 it would be impossible to recall all the 12ftlb air rifles and have then changed to 7ftlb every body and there grandmother has got a air rifle it would take years, and the only people to suffer would be the legitamate people like you and I, you would still get the village idiot fireing air rifles at people. I heard somethin on the radio earlier about some youths (in scotland I thin it was) going into a school and fireing air guns at the kids, some of them got injured. how crazy is that the reality is the goverment will have to do somethin sooner or later to try to provent things like this happening. kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P03 Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Think back a year or so......Brocock self contained systems were put on FAC and the Police co-ordinated the registration/destruction of many, many rifles......think they won't do the same for anything over 7 ftlbs?. Much bigger task but that doesn't means it can't/won't be done. I believe they allowed owners of Brococks to apply for an FAC without giving good reason which sped up the process. Also they have relaxed the rules on who can be a referee, so as long as they aren't family members and they have no criminal record just about any adult can be a referee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Also they have relaxed the rules on who can be a referee, so as long as they aren't family members and they have no criminal record just about any adult can be a referee. I must admit common sense prevails here because as in a shotgun application and if you could find one how well does a judge ,lawyer or any other professional person know you and how many do it for free .Just old fashioned snobbery rearing it's ugly head . I got a registered nurse to referee mine for shotgun,no problems but I'm not so sure that the situation with firearms has been relaxed but as always been the case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Also they have relaxed the rules on who can be a referee, so as long as they aren't family members and they have no criminal record just about any adult can be a referee. I must admit common sense prevails here because as in a shotgun application and if you could find one how well does a judge ,lawyer or any other professional person know you and how many do it for free .Just old fashioned snobbery rearing it's ugly head . I got a registered nurse to referee mine for shotgun,no problems but I'm not so sure that the situation with firearms has been relaxed but as always been the case Got the bloke next door and my shooting mate as my referee,s had no problems with that......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 I had the opposite,I asked for my mate I shoot with and a game keeper that has known me for 12+ yrs and the FEO said they needed a person like a doctor, JP etc.Sooo thats what I got 2 people who see me very infrequently and never in the field Beggars belief doesn`t it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiiish1987 Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 I really can't see them lowering the power of airguns. for a start there are too many sub-12 airguns in the uk for the government to make the fac limit sub-7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theskyfox Posted September 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Hi all, I think its time to put this topic to bed....I emailed basc and they officially said that nothing is going to happen with 12ftlbs air rifles and there are no plans to change it. They also told me not to take discussion forums like this one too seriously . Good advice really lol -Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Third line from the bottom. http://www.met.police.uk/firearms-enquiries/govprops.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P03 Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Maybe you should email that to BASC. They don't always have the most up to date information. As for not taking us too seriously......they should think more of their membership.....we probably do more shooting than them and there's more of us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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