b16jus Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Having only shot and handles 12gauge guns a friend was speaking about maby getting a 20 gauge but is unable to explaine to me why. Apart from the smaller cartridge please can someone explaine the differences etc Thanks J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lees Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 The are lighter as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonesbach Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 20 can be lighter and easier on the shoulder with lighter loads etc. all depends what your shooting I guess. I find mine ideal for closer rabbits, pigeon even a close range fox but the 12g is my choice for pheasant, ducks and pigeons a little further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackinbox99 Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 20g is smaller cartidge size, lighter and some say less recoil. Im not sure about the recoil side of things as surely a 28gram 20g cartirdge would have the same kick as a 28gram 12g cartridge? But, going from my .410 which has no noticable recoil, maybe it does. Traditionally ive noticed that a lot of women and youngsters seem to go for the 20g, especially on the clays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Generally the more refined person uses a 20b..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsdad Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Generally the more wealthy person uses a 20b..... Fixed it as the cartridges are so much more expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b16jus Posted November 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Thanks guys, My mrs struggles to lift and hold some of my 12gauge guns so i presume a 20g would be a good option for her and along with some lighter cartridges better recoil than the usual 28g i use in the 12g. i presume choke wise they work the same ? J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsdad Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 (edited) Before going to the expense try her with some Hull Comp X 21g in the 12b - I was going to get my mrs a 20b but am not now as these are so low recoil and about £2 a box cheaper than 20b carts. Edited November 1, 2012 by oscarsdad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lees Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Before going to the expense try her with some Hull Comp X 21g in the 12b - I was going to get my mrs a 20b but am not now as these are so low recoil and about £2 a box cheaper than 20b carts. Won't make the gun lighter though. How about trying a semi? They should be lighter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b16jus Posted November 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Yea the semi is lighter and better but very anoying having to pick up all the cartridges it leaves on the floor lol Before going to the expense try her with some Hull Comp X 21g in the 12b - I was going to get my mrs a 20b but am not now as these are so low recoil and about £2 a box cheaper than 20b carts. Ok cool will get some for her to try but she deff struggles with the weight of the gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P~MX Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 a 20 bore auto would be the tool ! I'm waitin on Browning brin out the Maxus in a 20 and then I'll have one for woodcock and drivin pheasants, a telescopic magnet in the cartridge bag makes liftin the empties easy . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b16jus Posted November 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Telescopic magnet is a fantastic idea ive got a big snap on one somewhere wonder how good it will be J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrapFiller Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Try a light 12 bore game gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ91 Posted November 4, 2012 Report Share Posted November 4, 2012 (edited) Winchester do a light over and under 12gauge plenty of light cartridges on the market 20 bore carts are overpriced, spend abit more and get a suitable light 12, you will save yourself in the long run Edited November 4, 2012 by TJ91 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wj939 Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 (edited) 20 bores are great little guns, I use one extensively and its just a lighter sweeter shooting gun, yes a 28g load will kick if your sensitive to recoil but if you not using 100's day they are a joyous tool for flighting pigeons or driven pheasant. Light to carry and extremly easy to swing. Good kills too, some of my longest shots have been with my 20 but I would say in general on longer stuff you need to be a fraction more accurate if that makes sense. I would say that its a more experienced shooters gun or a juniors or women gun for weight. Try one I bet you love it Edited November 5, 2012 by wj939 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkfanz Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 my favorite is the 20,i use it on pigeons phesant and ducks,i do use 12 as well when i feel like it but i dont think there any better than the smaller gauge,i like the light weight and quicker handling of the 20.my shooting partner uses a 20 as well our bags are just as good with either caliber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkfanz Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 as an afterthought b16 were are you,if you have a gunshop like macavoys at standish in lancashire they will let you try a 2nd hand gun for a week b4 you buy,find someone close to you like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 The are lighter as well. Not always true, the recoil and weight of the gun is down to the gun/cartridge/load combo not the chamber size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 Don't whatever you do get a woman new to shooting use a 20 bore with 28gm loads. It will put her off for good. All this '20 bore for ladies' is all very well but as HDAV above says, it's the combo that counts. And gun fit/mount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAsh Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 (edited) Traditionaly guns were based close to fixed sizes of shot so a 12 g normally had about 32gram of shot, 20 gauge about 24 gram, 28 gauge about 18-20 gram and 410 about 12-14 gram all in 2.5 inch carts The smaller the gram size the lighter the guns were made therefore a 20 gauge would normally be lighter than a 12 gauge and have about the same felt recoil as the 12g with heavier 32gram loads nowdays people use all different weights of cartridge for all sizes of guns so a 410 may have 19 gram and a 12 g have 21 gram clay shooting has lead to a max cart size of 28 gram for 12 g and 20 gauge now often also use 28gram loads people now think buying a lightweight 20 gauge will be lighter for a smaller person, which it normally is but by using heavier cartridges the recoil is significantly larger with it bringing in new problems. used with 20-24 gram carts it will be less weight and less recoil compared to a 28-32 gram load on a 12 g Edited November 5, 2012 by ChrisAsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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