Davyo Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 (edited) Dakars brilliant off road, but makes my 4x4 a death trap on road with ice.I was aware they are not good on wet roads but didnt have any probs as long as just Plodding along.BUT WHAT A SHOCK I GOT ON ICE. i got 00000000 grip on ice.(**SHOULD THESE EVEN BE ROADLEGAL** 70% off road/ 30%road)(out comes the fiesta) Edited December 3, 2012 by Davyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 off road tyres and off road cars can be a big compromise on roads and ice dont help, same as using you fiesta mud plugging. The worst offenders are 4x4 pickups with suspention lifts no weight in the back and agressive cut treads on the tyres Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86inch Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 I'm not surprised. Tyres of that ilk are perfect for bogging, but little else. If you are planning to use your truck on the road AT ALL, i'd stick with the true mud terrains like BFG Mud Terrains or Cooper STTs Perhaps also consider the "aggressive" All Terrains such as the Cooper ST Maxx? These are also M+S rated so would be decent in snow. I have the older Cooper ST's on my 110 and they are excellent on ice & snow and mud! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 I've had BFG muds on my rangerover for years, never had any drama on the road. They last ages too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodcock1 Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 I changed from michelin X 7.50 16 road tyres to Dakar 265s. I have found no noticeable difference between the two. Both are terrible on bad ice. I have the dakars on over 2 years now This will be their 3rd winter and will buy another set when done. Tyres with agressive treads should actually be better on ice as the weight of the vechicle is concentrated on a smaller area creating more ground pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Its got a lot more to do with the compound when on ice as tyres don't cut through it. The Dakars are a copy of a BFG mud terrain AFAIK but the rubber compound is not the same. Fundamentally though most tyres aren't great on ice especially with the weight of a 4x4 to stop so its the time of year to be careful. The M&S ratings do show an improved compound for winter use and I have to say my grabbers aren't bad but you still have to drive to the conditions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhead Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 ive never had a problem with my 80/20 mud tyres on my competition 90, lifted , full cage and 3 winches, still drove fine in wet , snow, ice or dry, that had insa turbo special tracks . my 110 has maxxis buckshot mud terrains and ive not had a problem with them and theres no weight in the rear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodcock1 Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Have to agree with al4x. winter compounds are the only way to improve grip but it will only be a small difference and they will wear much faster than standard tyres. Just take care and drive easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprinter Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 Had Dakars on my bus for a couple of years now. Excellent in the mud and goo, fine on the road in the wet, if a little noisy. Boring as hell in snow, just too much grip to have fun. If it's icy you do the same as in any other car, reduce your speed and drive according to the conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diceman Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 Got Insa Turbo Saharas on my 110 pick-up. Awesome in mud but on icy roads they may as well be polished slicks. I was told that strictly speaking they are not actually road legal but never managed to verify that one way or the other....anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 Tractor W>>>>RS!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark@mbb Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 I am looking for some BFG Kos if any one knows of any Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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