Blunderbust Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 Oh really? Or are you just over reacting again? I suggest you have a lie down tulip, don't want you getting all flustered this close to bed time. You might have nightmares about scary men with black guns shooting more things than you. I doubt anyone with spelling as atrocious as yours would be considered a 'snob' in any circles, so relax. Well thank god for that, I thought I was on a public forum and stupidly did not spell check. However, Salty thank for your input, I now feel much better after reading your kind comment. I don't think I will bother to spell check in the future because of it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 Taxiiiiiiiiiii! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBS Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 Anyone fancy a day out with Salty? No? Really? Ha ha ha ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 (edited) Anyone fancy a day out with Salty? No? Really? Ha ha ha ha Edited December 5, 2012 by Salty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 Mods, I think we can lock this thread before somebody's packed lunch gets spilled in the playground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdSolomons Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 I'm intrigued as to where all the guys wearing tweed shoot clays; they sound very dapper.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 I'm intrigued as to where all the guys wearing tweed shoot clays; they sound very dapper.... Oh trust me! I get to enjoy several Range Rovers full any time I like! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdSolomons Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 Nothing wrong with a nice range rover.... :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 Taxiiiiiiiiiii! Who called ? It'll be about 15 min wait and its after 11pm so its time & half Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepasty Posted December 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 no need to close it, just remove all the tripe thats spoiled what could of been a good informative thread.... its a real shame that people cant hold back on the opinions (NOT facts) and feel the need to **** all over someone else interest just because they dont agree with it. At no point did anyone ask whether anyone thought the modern style of gun was acceptable or not yet a few felt the need to spote off and answer a question that was never asked or indeed there view never asked for either. Anyway... yesterday out of interest and to get some insight into what the public really think I did a quick survey (around 20 people) in the local shop, no one I asked were holders of firearms or shot in any way. I had two pics, one of a traditional style gun and one of the Hatsan MPA.... the only question I asked them was "what do you think of these two guns?" Of cause I got some out there replies but interestingly no one said anything about the MPA looking more aggressive or menacing, the general out come was the traditional looked old and the MPA looked modern. Soooo whos got the problem... the public or the narrow minded among us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzthompson Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 I am of the opinion that any perceived snobbishness (If that's a word) is much more harmful to our sport than any risk of scaring people with "tacticool" shotguns. If its safe and legal, shoot it and have fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 no need to close it, just remove all the tripe thats spoiled what could of been a good informative thread.... its a real shame that people cant hold back on the opinions (NOT facts) and feel the need to **** all over someone else interest just because they dont agree with it. At no point did anyone ask whether anyone thought the modern style of gun was acceptable or not yet a few felt the need to spote off and answer a question that was never asked or indeed there view never asked for either. Anyway... yesterday out of interest and to get some insight into what the public really think I did a quick survey (around 20 people) in the local shop, no one I asked were holders of firearms or shot in any way. I had two pics, one of a traditional style gun and one of the Hatsan MPA.... the only question I asked them was "what do you think of these two guns?" Of cause I got some out there replies but interestingly no one said anything about the MPA looking more aggressive or menacing, the general out come was the traditional looked old and the MPA looked modern. Soooo whos got the problem... the public or the narrow minded among us? Ok go out and buy one you asked whether it was a good gun for clays and pigeon shooting you got the answer, that it will go bang well some of the time being a hatsan and you got a but. You don't like the but so just go ahead and get one you will get what you want which is to have a tactical looking gun, you will be looked down on at clay shoots and treated with caution and in the field you will run the increased risk of people calling the old bill but why keep going on about snobbery and the sport. Personally if this thread is anything to go by I have a suspicion why you have a dodgy right wrist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzthompson Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 I don't know about thepasty, but if somebody was more concerned by the look of the gun than by how safe and well i shot, Then i don't really want to shoot with that person anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBS Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 I don't know about thepasty, but if somebody was more concerned by the look of the gun than by how safe and well i shot, Then i don't really want to shoot with that person anyway. But that's the point your missing, rightly or wrongly most people won't want to shoot with you anyway, perhaps you should all meet together at a clay shoot and have it arranged with the club so you can offer doubters a few shots with the guns in question? Once people have a go it might change their tune a bit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepasty Posted December 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 If someone doesnt want to shoot with me based purely on what gun I shoot they are not the kind of people I want to be shooting with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus bridge Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 if the barrel is not rifled, what is the need for the very large (ak47ish) type front sight? would this not hinder its practical use on the clays / pigeons anyway? my tuppence worth - fill your boots if you want one, but the points that have been made re: public perception (right or not) are spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzthompson Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 That's their problem. My local clay ground has no problem so I don't care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus bridge Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 no sure if you have already seen this ; might be some help to you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzthompson Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 You are right about the sights pegasus bridge, It seems aimed at slugs. Hence why i purchased the normal version and the MP stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus bridge Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 it might be worth you putting some pics up, i would be interested in having a nosey! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepasty Posted December 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 He has already and the negative public "perception" of the modern style doesnt seem to be the case... as I proved above. Infact some even mentioned that they were more familiar with the modern style as thats what they see most in the media.... still there was no mention of anyone feeling more threatened by the modern style. One old boy said "I dont care for either, all guns scare me..." Has anyone else done a similar survey or the like to back up their opinion on public views? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus bridge Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 sorry, missed that!, just had a look and i have got to be honest i would go down that route if you really want it to be a usable tool. I have not seen any study, but i would say that the majority of people who shoot would hold this general perception about tactical weapons. i personally would not want to use it in the field, IMHO i would rather run into a member of the public in the countryside with something a little more discreet (traditional looking). the public are largely ignorant and scared of guns, I wouldn't want to fuel this with something that looked very 'military'. I think it would also change the response from the police if called, the whole sight arrangement makes it look like some sort of SLR, (for no appreciable benefit in use for clays / pigeon shooting). I know its only a subtle difference but removing both of the daft sights would make it a more usable tool, and look less like a military weapon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 I know its only a subtle difference but removing both of the daft sights would make it a more usable tool, and look less like a military weapon. but that is why he is buying it, not because of shooting benefits but because the look is the one he wants when marching about the countryside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus bridge Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 but that is why he is buying it, not because of shooting benefits but because the look is the one he wants when marching about the countryside. well that's fair enough but then at least lets not pretend it will be a usefull tool for clays / pigeon shooting when equipped with SLR type sights! i'm sure it would be fun, and very good for PSG though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepasty Posted December 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 Agreed, I dont care for the sights which is why I asked whether they could be removed earlier, I like what Gazz has done, looks modern, sleek and functional but the extra cost... hmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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