BattleFieldRelics Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Well that didnt get many signatures. Thankfully the hand gun one is doing better: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/10595087/Hand-guns-should-be-legalised-and-licensed-Nigel-Farage-has-said.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strangford wildfowler Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Defiantly not for N.I loads of bad stuff would be goin on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steppenwolf Posted February 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 To be honest I got more responses than I had imagined. I never thought I would break the 1000 mark but I got in total 1643. Now I have a new petition based on Nigel Farage's comments relating to handguns: http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/59704 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remimax Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 (edited) think the term is "******* into the wind". like lots of others i had several semi auto centre fire rifles and pistols and lost the lot due to law change. was not compensated for the loss of 3 rifles after hungerford . we will never see a return to how it was, petition all you want. Edited February 8, 2014 by Remimax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Like it or not someone is actually getting off their butt and making an attempt, rather than apathetically sitting around moaning it will never happen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanj Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 I shoot pigeons mate, so sat in a hide with an AK47 or chasing bunnies around a field with a berreta 9mm aint really my thing so i wont be signing either. Just think how much more damage a **** like derrick bird wouldve done if instead of a shotty and single shot small calibre rifle, he went running round with an M16! and with all the school shootings in America and that nutter in Norway I'm quite happy with things as they are. If anything highlights why ANY sort of gun ownership will be banned in this country, in my lifetime ,this post is it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remimax Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 (edited) Like it or not someone is actually getting off their butt and making an attempt, rather than apathetically sitting around moaning it will never happen! Fair play to ya M8 but in i think you've got more chance of finding a china man with a naturally occuring ginger affro that getting the result your after. :lol: Edited February 8, 2014 by Remimax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanj Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 that wasn't what he said at all, he said the laws that have been brought in aren't going to change and no government is going to think about these with the very recent spate of shootings in the USA. Handguns are available to those with true need but they can't be bought as play things centerfire rifles are gone for good. You can get as flustered as you like but most of the shooting world won't support your petition as they have an element of common sense about them. The thing with this kind of petition is I do wonder whether it will highlight a potential nut job as the author and get a bit of investigation done and checks with your licensing authorities with a large red highlight on your file. If not it quite probably should. That last sentence highlights a particular mentality. I just wonder if you and the other head in the sand merchants would get a semi auton cf SHOULD they ever be allowed again. This is a rhetorical question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 (edited) Defiantly not for N.I loads of bad stuff would be goin on . I am not sure what you mean, as handguns are legal in N Ireland. As for bad things going on the problem in N Ireland was illegal firearms and people willing to use them, not law abiding citizens with legal firearms. I shoot pigeons mate, so sat in a hide with an AK47 or chasing bunnies around a field with a berreta 9mm aint really my thing so i wont be signing either. Just think how much more damage a **** like derrick bird wouldve done if instead of a shotty and single shot small calibre rifle, he went running round with an M16! and with all the school shootings in America and that nutter in Norway I'm quite happy with things as they are. Why not ban shotguns , and .22 rifles and then following your logic derrick bird would have done less damage. Edited February 8, 2014 by ordnance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Like it or not someone is actually getting off their butt and making an attempt, rather than apathetically sitting around moaning it will never happen! It's a fool's errand, but don't let that stop any of you God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, The courage to change the things I can, And wisdom to know the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toplever Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 This is all priceless and compulsive pedantry - I have been laughing my socks off reading this stream of harmless, hilarious and entertaining drivel . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 This is all priceless and compulsive pedantry - I have been laughing my socks off reading this stream of harmless, hilarious and entertaining drivel . Maybe you could share with us the posts that you find stream of harmless, hilarious and entertaining drivel . And we could all have a laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 can I just ask this simple questions,,, 1,,,,why do we need high power rifles capable of shooting more than 3 bullets 2,,,,why do we need high power pistols capable of shooting more than 3 bullets just thought I would ask as I personally cannot see any need for them,, yes if they where single shot or two but automatics and semi autos WHY is it because the owner is too lazy to put another round in ?, for the life of me I just cannot see the need for ANY semi or automatic high power rifles, have to say I feel for those who did the pistol shooting as my father did but high power pistols , do we really have a need for them, I personally think the semi autos and automatics should solely be left for the armed forces not for joe blogs with a FAC, ok my tin hat is on for the barrage of abuse , I am not against these calibres I just don't think there is a need for them other than in a war situation atb Evo ps please correct me if I,m wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 (edited) 1,,,,why do we need high power rifles capable of shooting more than 3 bullets 2,,,,why do we need high power pistols capable of shooting more than 3 bullets Why do we need shotguns, why do we need rifles, We have these for sporting and hunting. We don't need them if they were all taken away tomorrow life would go on. As for capacity, A magazine can be changed in seconds so the amount they carry is irrelevant. 2,,,,why do we need high power pistols capable of shooting more than 3 bullets. Most pistol international competitions that I am aware of require large cap magazines. International Practical Shooting Confederation (IPSC) for example which shot in the UK. IPSC NI - Northern Ireland Practical Shooting Confederation Should civilians in the UK not be able to take part in these competitions, no different than shooting clays as far as I am concerned. www.ipscni.org/ I personally think the semi autos and automatics should solely be left for the armed forces not for joe blogs with a FAC, Why do you think that . ? Does that include semi-auto shotguns and .22 rifles. Edited February 9, 2014 by ordnance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steppenwolf Posted February 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 can I just ask this simple questions,,, 1,,,,why do we need high power rifles capable of shooting more than 3 bullets 2,,,,why do we need high power pistols capable of shooting more than 3 bullets just thought I would ask as I personally cannot see any need for them,, yes if they where single shot or two but automatics and semi autos WHY is it because the owner is too lazy to put another round in ?, for the life of me I just cannot see the need for ANY semi or automatic high power rifles, have to say I feel for those who did the pistol shooting as my father did but high power pistols , do we really have a need for them, I personally think the semi autos and automatics should solely be left for the armed forces not for joe blogs with a FAC, ok my tin hat is on for the barrage of abuse , I am not against these calibres I just don't think there is a need for them other than in a war situation atb Evo ps please correct me if I,m wrong To be honest nobody needs any gun if you look at it that way. Some people WANT to do hunting some WANT to do target shooting, so it's more of a choice. Why do you feel that as a gun owner you should regulate what other people want? Shouldn't you be supporting people in thier quest for fairer gun rights because that is what it is all about. It also ties in into the need to tell government to ****** off from our lives, not necessarily about gun control but about otherr things as well. WE have been brainwashed to have to demonstrate NEED for everything. I don't need those knives in the kitchen, I could just as well break bread with my hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 To be honest nobody needs any gun if you look at it that way. Some people WANT to do hunting some WANT to do target shooting, so it's more of a choice. Why do you feel that as a gun owner you should regulate what other people want? Shouldn't you be supporting people in thier quest for fairer gun rights because that is what it is all about. It also ties in into the need to tell government to ****** off from our lives, not necessarily about gun control but about otherr things as well. WE have been brainwashed to have to demonstrate NEED for everything. I don't need those knives in the kitchen, I could just as well break bread with my hands. firstly I am not trying to regulate anything and yes I do feel sorry for the people who cannot participate in their sport, I am asking two questions and so far neither has been answered , well at least the pistol question has been partially answered,but why the need for multiple amounts of HIGH POWER bullets ? if its a shooting comp why not 1 or 2 bullets ? at a time that is,, ok I,ll ask again, WHY do we need semi auto or automatic HIGH POWER pistols or rifles,, you are wasting your time telling me its for hunting purposes as there is no need to have a HIGH POWER rifle carrying more than 3 shots, if you cannot kill your quarry in three shot then you should pack up shooting, as has been mentioned WHY do we need an AK47 to be legal in this country, would anyone use one for hunting,,NO is the answer, the only reason I can see anyone wanting one of those and or the likes is so as to be the mr big " look what I,ve got brigade" I value my shooting highly and could not be without it but these rifles and pistols that can shoot silly amounts of bullets in my eyes there is NO call for them,anywhere in OUR country, now please note, I,m not having a go , I,m merely asking why is there a need for them as I cannot see any reasonable reason WHY other than to BRAG owning one atb Evo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 (edited) Seriously, after Michael Ryan, Dunblane and Bird the shooting community have to take some medicine and cut their cloth accordingly. Getting already banned stuff back is 'uphill' to say the least, it's a massive waste of time and a fringe distraction from the nuts and bolts work done by shooting organisations every day to keep hold of what we have. The focus and energy should be on fighting and petitioning to not lose any more than we already have. Edited February 9, 2014 by Mungler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 There ISN'T a need for them. None of us on this forum have a NEED for any of the guns we own; it's called freedom of choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 Seriously, after Michael Ryan, Dunblane and Bird the shooting community have to take some medicine and cut their cloth accordingly. Getting already banned stuff back is 'uphill' to say the least, it's a massive waste of time and a fringe distraction from the nuts and bolts work done by shooting organisations every day to keep hold of what we have. The focus and energy should be on fighting and petitioning to not lose any more than we already have. + 1 totally agree There ISN'T a need for them. None of us on this forum have a NEED for any of the guns we own; it's called freedom of choice. I thought with a firearm you had to prove a reason for owning it so in otherwords you NEED one to shoot foxes atb Evo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 well at least the pistol question has been partially answered,but why the need for multiple amounts of HIGH POWER bullets ? if its a shooting comp why not 1 or 2 bullets ? at a time that is,, You think that we should ask an international shooting organisation to change their rules to suit us. I value my shooting highly and could not be without it but these rifles and pistols that can shoot silly amounts of bullets in my eyes there is NO call for them,anywhere in OUR country, now please note, I,m not having a go , I,m merely asking why is there a need for them as I cannot see any reasonable reason WHY other than to BRAG owning one atb Evo So you think that the only reason that people shoot pistols and rifles is so that they can brag about it. That's a big and stupid generalization . I am not sure what you mean by high powered bullets. ? A .22 rifle and shotgun will kill just the same as other calibers. ( Bird was reported to have used a shotgun and a .22 rifle to murder ). ok I,ll ask again, WHY do we need semi auto or automatic HIGH POWER pistols or rifles. You wouldn't be hunting with a pistol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 I thought with a firearm you had to prove a reason for owning it so in otherwords you NEED one to shoot foxes Providing 'good reason' doesn't prove a 'need'. A landowner/farmer probably 'needs' foxes shooting, and for 'good reason', but unless you're that farmer you don't have a genuine 'need'. Your 'good reason' to posess is for shooting you would like to undertake from a recreational point of view, not for any 'need', again, because you have the freedom of choice to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 You think that we should ask an international shooting organisation to change their rules to suit us. So you think that the only reason that people shoot pistols and rifles is so that they can brag about it. That's a big and stupid generalization . I am not sure what you mean by high powered bullets. ? A .22 rifle and shotgun will kill just the same as other calibers. ( Bird was reported to have used a shotgun and a .22 rifle to murder ). ok I,ll ask again, WHY do we need semi auto or automatic HIGH POWER pistols or rifles. You wouldn't be hunting with a pistol. not once have I mentioned a calibre , except for ak47,, I do not class ,22 as a HIGH POWER, where have I said that that is your conclusion to something I havn,t said I mean HIGH POWER ,,,, what don't you understand about it,, ok eg; a 9mm magnum or an ak47 there is two ,,or the likes of, are you going to answer the two questions I have asked as said I,m asking two simple questions and you have not said anything at all that changes my opinion of how I see and feel about HIGH POWER semi autos or automatics or pistols, I just don't see any need for them except in the armed forces,, but that's my opinion and nothing so far has changed my mind and I,m a gun owner so what chance have you got of changing a non gun owners mind,,,,NONE by the sound of your sarcastic replies atb Evo Providing 'good reason' doesn't prove a 'need'. A landowner/farmer probably 'needs' foxes shooting, and for 'good reason', but unless you're that farmer you don't have a genuine 'need'. Your 'good reason' to posess is for shooting you would like to undertake from a recreational point of view, not for any 'need', again, because you have the freedom of choice to do so. thankyou, scully,,,,I stand corrected mate atb Evo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 (edited) sarcastic replies. What sarcastic replies are you talking about. ? as said I,m asking two simple questions and you have not said anything at all that changes my opinion of how I see and feel about HIGH POWER semi autos or automatics or pistols, I just don't see any need for them except in the armed forces. Why do you need the firearms you have. The only consolation is that you have no influence on the type of firearms we are allowed to own. HIGH POWER . I see now you mean ( centerfire pistol and rifle ammo) . High power means nothing. PS I have never a 9mm being called high powered possibly .44 magmum. as said I,m asking two simple questions and you have not said anything at all that changes my opinion of how I see and feel about HIGH POWER semi autos or automatics or pistols, I answered in earlier posts , just because you don't agree doesn't mean I didn't answer them. For competition , what do you not understand about competition. Do we need them no , just like you don't need yours. Why don't you answer my question , do you think section 1 semi-auto shotguns and .22 rifles be banned. As you don't see the need for a firearm to have a capacity of over three rounds. ? I cannot see any reasonable reason WHY other than to BRAG owning one. NO is the answer, the only reason I can see anyone wanting one of those and or the likes is so as to be the mr big " look what I,ve got brigade" Maybe you could back up the above statements while you are at it. Which to me show your real motives . Edited February 9, 2014 by ordnance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 why would anyone want a .44 magnum then ? surely not target practice ? for hunting ? to BRAG they have one ? the decision is yours but I know what I would think and its certainly not one of the first three atb Evo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 What sarcastic replies are you talking about. ? Why do you need the firearms you have. The only consolation is that you have no influence on the type of firearms we are allowed to own. I see now you mean ( centerfire pistol and rifle ammo) . High power means nothing. PS I have never a 9mm being called high powered possibly .44 magmum. I answered in earlier posts , just because you don't agree doesn't mean I didn't answer them. For competition , what do you not understand about competition. Do we need them no , just like you don't need yours. Why don't you answer my question , do you think section 1 semi-auto shotguns and .22 rifles be banned. As you don't see the need for a firearm to have a capacity of over three rounds. ? Maybe you could back up the above statements while you are at it. Which to me show your real motives . I don't have any motives,, I,m asking 2 simple questions, why the need for automatic high power rifles except in the armed forces Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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