cockercas Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 this isnt an add. i need to get my cocker dog proven. if anyone is/knows of anyone planning a litter of cocker spaniels or cocker crosses send me a pm. im not after a fortune and my dog will be clear of certen hereditary conditions i have the mother and shes health tested and it can not be passed down. thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocker boy Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 Any reason why?.What has it done to make it worthy of being bred from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted January 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 (edited) Go one then, enlighten me. Edited January 27, 2013 by cockercas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PERCE Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 You enlighten us, why would anybody want to use your dog other than to make you money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted January 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 (edited) If you read the op, he has a clean bill of health for heredioty spainel conditions. All tho im not spending the four figure sum (like i have on the mother)on the tests yet, even tho he carnt fail them as theres no point if he dosent produce pups. I could mention his pedigree/abilty but i wont because i carnt be bothered to type it. Money? Who mentioned money? Edited January 27, 2013 by cockercas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ghost Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 I think what they are saying is "why should your son sleep with my daughter" I bred my bulldog with the best stud dog of the year 2009..10...11...12. His pups are show winners all over the world.....we think of our dogs like family so don't take it personal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 Set health testing aside until you have established if the dog is actually worth using at stud. Plenty of good studs out there, why would someone choose yours? Is it particularly big, small, fast, biddable, calm, hard going etc etc. It's not all about FTChs for everybody, but there have be desirable attributes in your dog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted January 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 Set health testing aside until you have established if the dog is actually worth using at stud. Plenty of good studs out there, why would someone choose yours? Is it particularly big, small, fast, biddable, calm, hard going etc etc. It's not all about FTChs for everybody, but there have be desirable attributes in your dog. Hes huge for a cocker,calm,loyal, very very easily trained. I assumed Ftch is what the first poster was getting at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocker boy Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 You should never assume anything. I would ask again, what is it about the dog that warrants it being used at stud? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highbird70 Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Maybe Cockercas in his judgement, think's that it would be a good working dog to be used as a stud, I can't see why not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pontbeck Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Maybe Cockercas in his judgement, think's that it would be a good working dog to be used as a stud, I can't see why not Yes, I can see that but would anyone else when there are so many that have demonstrated their ability in the field, in the form of trials. The owner of the bitch chooses the dog ,not the other way round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highbird70 Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Yes, I can see that but would anyone else when there are so many that have demonstrated their ability in the field, in the form of trials. The owner of the bitch chooses the dog ,not the other way round Exactly....his asking if someone would consider his dog...why not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted January 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Exactly....his asking if someone would consider his dog...why not Id never trial him anyway. I think its a load of **** Same as the KC assured breeder. Im a member of that but thats **** to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greymaster Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 i need to get my cocker dog proven. thanks. Please elaborate on "need". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocker boy Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 I have got a cocker bitch due in season any time, why would i use your dog over her?. Why is he worth breeding from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted January 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 I have got a cocker bitch due in season any time, why would i use your dog over her?. Why is he worth breeding from? Hes geneticaly (sp) free from hereditory (sp) desise (sp) applogys for the spelling theres no spell check ob my phone. Hes a decent dog working wise altho this is his first season. If you are generly (sp) intrested send me a pm and il give you all the info you need. I 'need' him proven. If he produces pups (some dogs dont) then i will spend the small fortune on all the health tests. Im not prepered to lay out all the money if hes not intrested in bitches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocker boy Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 (edited) So the dog was born to health tested parents and is in your words a decent worker even though it is in its first season working. Don't think I will bother thanks Edited January 28, 2013 by cocker boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthunter49 Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Mate health test mean jack **** with cockers.you need to state how hes breed ie what his parents name and so on.if his ped his full of ftch hes worth studing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted January 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Mate health test mean jack **** with cockers.you need to state how hes breed ie what his parents name and so on.if his ped his full of ftch hes worth studing His pedergrie is full of FTCH. So the dog was born to health tested parents and is in your words a decent worker even though it is in its first season working. Don't think I will bother thanks Yes you have the jist of it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthunter49 Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Put his ped on lets have a look Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted January 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 I dont know how to get it from paper to here. And im not typing it all. 33ftch in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthunter49 Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Just put to great grand parents after that i dont really matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Actionpigeons Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Providing the Dog is reasonably well bred, working lines, and the bitch is reasonably well bred, working lines, there is a good chance the pups will end up reasonable workers with the right training. The point most people are trying to make I think is: If you have a goodish working bitch, be it a Lab, Cocker or springer, most people would choose to take it to the best dog they can find/afford. That is a dog that is a F.T.CH, or at least a F.T W. This is why as a rule the sires side of a pedigree is stronger that the bitches side. Just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Providing the Dog is reasonably well bred, working lines, and the bitch is reasonably well bred, working lines, there is a good chance the pups will end up reasonable workers with the right training. The point most people are trying to make I think is: If you have a goodish working bitch, be it a Lab, Cocker or springer, most people would choose to take it to the best dog they can find/afford. That is a dog that is a F.T.CH, or at least a F.T W. This is why as a rule the sires side of a pedigree is stronger that the bitches side. Just my opinion. this is so true, but its not always the best plan for producing pups for your own needs. Suppose you have to own sire and dam to achieve this goal with your own dog, no matter how proven in his work he might well be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delburt0 Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 i lost my cocker last yr a very good bitch, when looking for a new dog i came across a cocker that was thrown undershot and was going to be put down and unregistered , needless to say the wife and kids fell in love with the story then the dog, and yes i got him , i donated £150.00 to charity for him , and even though i have copys of his brothers and sisters, i new behind him he had a good pedigree so to speak, after 7 months the undershot had just about corrected the vets where more than happy with him when i got him with no murmours or anymore issues, he had his 12 months check up and booster last week and they gave him a good bill of health he is one of the best workers as far as flushing and over the gun for his age i have ever had, just started training last week, i dont want to make him a ftch, but a pigeon companion for me and a good companion/pet for my kids...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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