Elmer Fudd 1 Posted March 2, 2013 Report Share Posted March 2, 2013 have just sold my cz 452 varmint 20inch in exchange for a new 455 varmint 16inch which arrives next week. anyone got any experience with these and what do the reckon? fudd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenshooter Posted March 2, 2013 Report Share Posted March 2, 2013 Was shooting 2 of them at the club last night and their owners love them! One hole groups at 50m with both of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmer Fudd 1 Posted March 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2013 (edited) heck i thought my 452 was accurate Edited March 2, 2013 by Elmer Fudd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sako751sg Posted March 2, 2013 Report Share Posted March 2, 2013 Absolutely spot on up to now,although i did get a trigger kit for it which has improved accuracy a good bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted March 2, 2013 Report Share Posted March 2, 2013 I have the cz 455 varmint 16" .22lr with standard stock,have done 5 shots groups through the same hole at 25yrds of a bipod with eley sport and winchester subs. The riffle although it shoots good feels poor and the trigger isnt great with pull weights altering. The bolt also imo is not as good as the 452 and the barrel is to heavy for no real gain. When you get it I would remove the stock from the action and get rid if all the rough edges and saw dust from the stock and clean the action. when I got mine brand new it wouldnt cycle right,found the extractor claws wrong way round. All in all a riffle that will perform but may not feel or look as good as others. I like cz's but wouldnt get another 455. Bare in mind mine could have been a friday afternoon job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmer Fudd 1 Posted March 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2013 ive also got a 455 varmint thumbhole in 17 and 22 both are brilliant guns so i can see why this would be any worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornet 6 Posted March 3, 2013 Report Share Posted March 3, 2013 Why would anybody trade down from a 452 ? Single locking lug is a step back, but is much cheaper to make, it's sold as a switch barrel rifle, waste of time over here with our laws, but again it is much cheaper to make and assemble. The 455 is just an exercise in making more profit for a lesser quality gun. Neil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted March 3, 2013 Report Share Posted March 3, 2013 Well good luck. It was just my humble opinion.And you asked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted March 3, 2013 Report Share Posted March 3, 2013 Accuracy wise if you find any difference between the 452 & 455 (like for like) then you will need a Micrometre that measures down to the size of an atom!! There was nothing wrong with the accuracy of the old BRNO compared to CZ models, this is just another model evolution! Anyone expecting a revolutionary product changing from a 452 to a 455 is going to be disappointed, the 452 is already so good the difference is infinitesimal for all practical purposes, and largely aesthetic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweet169 Posted March 3, 2013 Report Share Posted March 3, 2013 i have the 452 in 22lr and the 455 in 17hmr and apart from the cal i cant really see much difference in performance but i have only had them under a week and only used them once so maybe im missing something due to all the excitement atb Aaron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted March 3, 2013 Report Share Posted March 3, 2013 basically I think the 455 is a business model not a shooting model, the trigger is billed as better but in fact its worse a large action converted to a small action helps nobody- its like the quad if you bought all the barrels you could have bought 3 x CZ 452 for similar money. I like the heavier varmint profile and the option of a laminate stock (just whished it was not a thumbhole) the ones I have shot have been very capable accuracy wise but harder to shoot due to the triggers varying so much pull to pull. I certainly like the steel action for its strength and better finish via blueing over anodised alloy in the 452. Bolt smoothness is just down to shooting them in every CZ I have owned has been like this c/f or r/f. If I was changing my own 452 today then the 455 would be up there on the list but I should likely as not search out a second hand 452 varmint again, if I ended up with a 455 I would put 1000 round down range over the course of a week or two and if the trigger was still playing up I should swap the whole unit for the timney replacement rather than mess with pull weight reducing kits, though I recon someone might have to pry my 452 from my dead hands before the rigor really set in so its not going anytime soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted March 3, 2013 Report Share Posted March 3, 2013 basically I think the 455 is a business model not a shooting model, the trigger is billed as better but in fact its worse a large action converted to a small action helps nobody- its like the quad if you bought all the barrels you could have bought 3 x CZ 452 for similar money. I like the heavier varmint profile and the option of a laminate stock (just whished it was not a thumbhole) the ones I have shot have been very capable accuracy wise but harder to shoot due to the triggers varying so much pull to pull. I certainly like the steel action for its strength and better finish via blueing over anodised alloy in the 452. Bolt smoothness is just down to shooting them in every CZ I have owned has been like this c/f or r/f. If I was changing my own 452 today then the 455 would be up there on the list but I should likely as not search out a second hand 452 varmint again, if I ended up with a 455 I would put 1000 round down range over the course of a week or two and if the trigger was still playing up I should swap the whole unit for the timney replacement rather than mess with pull weight reducing kits, though I recon someone might have to pry my 452 from my dead hands before the rigor really set in so its not going anytime soon You not fancy a swap for mine. I can fit a lighter spring to the trigger that doesnt fit in the counter bored hole like everyone else does . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted March 3, 2013 Report Share Posted March 3, 2013 Can`t understand anyone going down to a 455 ! They`re just a cheaper gun to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornet 6 Posted March 3, 2013 Report Share Posted March 3, 2013 I certainly like the steel action for its strength and better finish via blueing over anodised alloy in the 452. You sure you have actually looked at or owned both ? Both are steel, both are blued, one was properly polished and finished, one wasn't, why not, well because it is the cheap to make poor cousin, that we are being asked to pay more for. My 452 American is less than 4 years old, I paid £225 for it brand spanking new, at a shop not known for being cheap, that was the full asking price for a new CZ at that time. Neil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted March 3, 2013 Report Share Posted March 3, 2013 You sure you have actually looked at or owned both ? Both are steel, both are blued, one was properly polished and finished, one wasn't, why not, well because it is the cheap to make poor cousin, that we are being asked to pay more for. My 452 American is less than 4 years old, I paid £225 for it brand spanking new, at a shop not known for being cheap, that was the full asking price for a new CZ at that time. Neil. 100% certain, never checked it was an alloy receiver but thought I read so (couldn't be made strong enough for barrel swaps without distortion). it certainly aint stuck up and blued, if it wasn't an alloy why not polish and blue it? I have had my CZ 452 quite a while it cost me £150 mint second hand, I have two good mates who have both purchased 455 cz in .22 lr flavour- they both shoot but both have niggles not present in the 452. Pity the two variants couldn't be jelled together - it might make the ultimate rf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbust Posted March 3, 2013 Report Share Posted March 3, 2013 I have to agree that the 452 is a better tool than the 455. I havent owned the 452 but have shot one plenty and only wish I had done so before buying my 455. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted March 3, 2013 Report Share Posted March 3, 2013 Love my CZ 455 Thumbhole Varmint which is in .17HMR calibre and has a 16" barrel. If i had one complaint it would have to be the Trigger as i can be a little stiff but im getting used to it now. Lovely rifle IMO. ATVB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted March 3, 2013 Report Share Posted March 3, 2013 Think the triggers on most 455's are poor. If someone with a 452 16" varmint barrel with a tactical stock wanted to swap I would bite their hand off. Only reason I havent swapped mine is because of the long wait for my fac to come back after a variation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted March 4, 2013 Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 I wouldn't swap a 452 for a 455 but doubt there is much difference between them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmer Fudd 1 Posted March 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 well my order got cancelled but its ok because ive now got the varmint thumbhole on order again. which makes my ironically diverse firearm collection now look a little like cz 455 varmint thumbhole 16" 22lr with mtc viper 10x44 and sirocco sm11 mod cz 455 varmint thumbhole 16" 22lr with mtc mamba 4-16x50 and sak mod cz 455 varmint thumbhole 16" 17 hmr with pulsar n550 and dr bob doubler and sirocco sm11 mod hehe (mini question; what is my favorite rimfire rifle) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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