b16jus Posted March 9, 2013 Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 You can borrow a gun for 72 hours before it has to be places as lent onto your certificate. My question is can these 72 hours be renewed if so can it be a telephone conversation or so you have to hand it back to be given it again I know nobody knows when the 72 hours starts but if you borrowed a gun and are away for a short break you can't say yuh picked it up last night J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted March 9, 2013 Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 Then just write it out as borrowed on the cert . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b16jus Posted March 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 Is it as easy as that ? I borrow it a lot so do you have to add it every time or just the once ? Also would we both have to inform police ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted March 9, 2013 Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 Im not enirely sure about informing the police. When my gun was on my dads i just 'picked it up that morning' if he was on a short break he would 'leave me the keys'. In reality that never happened but you get the jist of it. No one will ever ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 Inform police if you borrow it alot then it makes more sense than a one off 73 hour trip... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parapilot Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 Suppose if you hand it back and re borrow it then its legal. I'm sure the police would not be to impressed with all the paperwork putting it on and off license for the sake of a few hours. But The laws the law.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckyshot Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 If you borrow the gun regular why not add it to your sgc, makes more sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamekeeper1960 Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 Why not just put on both certificate then you can keep it as long as you want ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 Why not just put on both certificate then you can keep it as long as you want ! :yes: That would seem the most obvious and easiest answer! :good: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b16jus Posted March 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 I have no problem putting on mine as lent but do I have to do it every time it's borrowed ? That's the question or is it a case of once on there no need to keep adding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 (edited) I have no problem putting on mine as lent but do I have to do it every time it's borrowed ? That's the question or is it a case of once on there no need to keep adding You don't have to do anything if you lend it to another SGC holder for less than 72 hours. ...and you NEVER write anything on our own FAC/SGC except your signature! If you borrow it for over 72 hours, the person you are borrowing it from writes LENT and the details on your SGC and you BOTH have to advise your regions within 7 days! Edited March 10, 2013 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b16jus Posted March 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 That's my question though when I hand the gun back is the lent over and e.g 4 weeks later I borrow it again for a week do we have to repeat the process ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 That's my question though when I hand the gun back is the lent over and e.g 4 weeks later I borrow it again for a week do we have to repeat the process ? If it is lent for less than 72 hours nobody needs to do anything, what process do you have to repeat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome of the Woods Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 Put it on your cert for good, you can share the gun so to speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b16jus Posted March 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 Ok maby im not explaining myself Ok i borrow the gun for 1 week i cannot use the i borrowed it last night as my friend is out the country so if anything happened its a obvous lie So i add it to my certificate as borrowed and advise police, so when i hand it back to my friend is the lent over i.e next time i borrow for 1 week do i have to re add it and inform again ? Or is there a way a shotgun can legally be shared between 2 people for longer than 72 hours at a time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 Why not just phone your local FIREARMS and EXPLOSIVE Officer and explain it to him, he can then advise. At the moment you seem to be hung up on the idea that you only need to enter it once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glb8686 Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 Or just do what gnome said then your sorted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 Once it is on your cert and polo e I formed it is on your cert then end of, I see what you are getting at but once on both certs either holder can be in possesion for as long they like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanL Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 You can borrow a gun for 72 hours before it has to be places as lent onto your certificate. My question is can these 72 hours be renewed if so can it be a telephone conversation or so you have to hand it back to be given it again I know nobody knows when the 72 hours starts but if you borrowed a gun and are away for a short break you can't say yuh picked it up last night J No because it's stil in your possession. If yu have it for more than 72 hours then it must go on to your cert and both parties must notify the police. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamekeeper1960 Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 Sorry but its very easy you are aloud by LAW to have a gun in your posetion for upto 72 hours with out having to add it to your certificate after that it has to be added! just add to both certificates then it doesnt matter if your mate goes on holiday or goes into hospital you are the covered ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 I put my shotguns on a friends certificate when mine ran out. We informed the firearms department of the arrangement and told them that we were both to be listed as the holders of the guns. Now they can be stored at either property for as long as we wish. As far as the law is concerned they belong to both of us. I was once a member of a rifle club that had a long barrelled revolver for the members. For some reason such a gun cannot be held as a club gun (don't ask, I don't know why not) so the club signed it onto the FAC of every member that wanted to use it. The police weren't too pleased with having seventy odd holders of the same firearm, but there was nothing in law that they could do about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanL Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 (edited) I put my shotguns on a friends certificate when mine ran out. We informed the firearms department of the arrangement and told them that we were both to be listed as the holders of the guns. Now they can be stored at either property for as long as we wish. As far as the law is concerned they belong to both of us. I was once a member of a rifle club that had a long barrelled revolver for the members. For some reason such a gun cannot be held as a club gun (don't ask, I don't know why not) so the club signed it onto the FAC of every member that wanted to use it. The police weren't too pleased with having seventy odd holders of the same firearm, but there was nothing in law that they could do about it. That's an excellent idea! The reason as to why LBR's can't be held on a club certificate is that clubs can only possess guns for which the club is home office approved. A club can only be approved for small-bore rifle, full-bore rifle or muzzle-loading pistol Home office approval is a defence to havng a firearm in your possession without having a personal FAC for it meaning that you can use club guns or other members guns as long as they fall within the category of approval which the club holds. Obviously, a long barrel pistol does not fall into the available critera so a club cannot have one on it's FAC. This also means that members cannot use other members LBP's as their possession of it would be an offence. J. Edited March 10, 2013 by JonathanL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 Ok maby im not explaining myself Ok i borrow the gun for 1 week i cannot use the i borrowed it last night as my friend is out the country so if anything happened its a obvous lie So i add it to my certificate as borrowed and advise police, so when i hand it back to my friend is the lent over i.e next time i borrow for 1 week do i have to re add it and inform again ? Or is there a way a shotgun can legally be shared between 2 people for longer than 72 hours at a time Yes, as advised by several people several times, put the gun on BOTH SGC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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