AVB Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Hello, I'm a pigeon shooter (shotgun) normally but with the shortage of pigeons at the moment have resorted to attempt to clear the garden of tree rats with an airgun. So bought a new .22 12lb/ft spring gun and after satisfying myself that I could group shots OK set about the squirrels. With head shots at about 15-20 yards no problem. They normally go down stone dead or run about 5 yards then drop dead. However, I also had an old cage trap so have been catching them in there. The problem is that when dispatching them with the same gun at point blank range I don't always get a clean kill. I think hitting them in the top of the head but it takes a couple of shot to kill them. Is it the fact that that part of the head is tough or is the gun less effective at close range. Can't understand why it would be the latter but perhaps somebody can shed light on it. Cheers Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Stretch their necks, don't shoot them at close range The pellet leaves the gun and from the point it leaves the barrel it decelerates, it is at its most powerful just as it leaves, well placed shots would do it at close quarters, better to stretch their necks though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancs Lad Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 just watch out so that they dont sink their teeth in............ should be no difference in close range shots....often given the coup de grace with mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theskyfox Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 I like to keep a tin of flat headed pellets for this purpose...that way you know all the energy goes into the point blank shot. Seems strange, especially in 22 that at point blank your not getting clean kills, but it could just be bad shot placement or something. Keep up the good work tho -Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poacher Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 i wouldn't recomend stretching the neck on a squirrel, the little b@st:rds will either bite you or scratch you pretty badly, and not worth the risk considering the disease they could be carrying...Give em one point blank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth Stalker Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Pin mate I'm gonna catch a squirrel in one of my live traps for you to show us all how to stretch their necks, I'll even video it so you can then edit & post it on here Oh I've just realised you wont have any fingers left to tippety tap on the keyboard Dont even attempt to pick them up until they are very dead, I've not been on the receiving end of a squirrel, but my dog has & a nasty bite it was too, it latched on to her bottom lip, I can still hear her howls of pain now. If you have to, a little underwater swim for a minute or two will do the trick AVB I know where you're coming from I've had the same happen to me with a point blank shot in a live trap, it took 2 or 3 shots to finish it. Put me off shooting them in the traps. SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 I've done it before and I would be happy to demonstrate for you. You just need to be extremely violent really, grab the head really effning hard with the right hand and pull like jiggery with the left. If you pussy foot about they struggle, if you grab them so hard its worthless to struggle they settle down Works for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ratcatcher Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Try some hollow points, they work well, failing that, go with pins choice (if your brave) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth Stalker Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 I'd pay money to watch it Next one I catch is yours mate SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 I love stuff like this, I'll bring the camera, and edit the footage if I do it or if I get mauled to death Doesn't matter to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poacher Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 we should open a book on this,,, Barehanded odds on favorite you'll get bit on the finger 2-1 the squirel gets it 5-1 squirel will escape 10-1 bit on the **** 50-1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth Stalker Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 What about a refusal at the first, its gotta be evens I'm gonna bait up the trap first thing in the morning. SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Due to having drunk nearly 2 bottles of cab sav I rise to your challenge. I am will pit my hands against your squirrels and promise to post a video of the results. I am taking those odds lads, PM me for details Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the pelt man Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 we should open a book on this,,,Barehanded odds on favorite you'll get bit on the finger 2-1 the squirel gets it 5-1 squirel will escape 10-1 bit on the **** 50-1 Poacher I'll take you up on the 50-1 shot, £20 say's Pin bites the squirrel on the **** PELTMAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Am I allowed to wear my new gloves I bought from leepleee? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ratcatcher Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 Am I allowed to wear my new gloves I bought from leepleee? NO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poacher Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 Am I allowed to wear my new gloves I bought from leepleee? I heard that people from up north don't wear gloves is there something you want to tell us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 I have been down south a while, erm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kip270 Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 Hello, I'm a pigeon shooter (shotgun) normally but with the shortage of pigeons at the moment have resorted to attempt to clear the garden of tree rats with an airgun. So bought a new .22 12lb/ft spring gun and after satisfying myself that I could group shots OK set about the squirrels. With head shots at about 15-20 yards no problem. They normally go down stone dead or run about 5 yards then drop dead. However, I also had an old cage trap so have been catching them in there. The problem is that when dispatching them with the same gun at point blank range I don't always get a clean kill. I think hitting them in the top of the head but it takes a couple of shot to kill them. Is it the fact that that part of the head is tough or is the gun less effective at close range. Can't understand why it would be the latter but perhaps somebody can shed light on it. Cheers Andrew What Air-rifle have you got What pellets are you using You shouldn't have any problems at point blank range. What part of the head are you shooting?? If you go for the top it will be a clean kill. One thing that you must also think about is when caught in a trap and you approach to dispatch it, it will be very alert and full of adrenaline, so when you shoot it, the flight reflex come's into play. Even though it is dead the nerves go into overdrive. Next time pop a pellet in backwards so the skirt is in first, this will give you a clean kill As for stretching their necks No way (pin, your either a brave man or NUTS ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Master Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 Pin, you were saying you would do it by hand but now want to wear gloves. My Gran is 79 and she doesn't use gloves. Just a fishing net or a good hammer. Shameful. She did find the many squirrel corpses hanging in the trees were starting to put the birds off the feeders though! FM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth Stalker Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 No gloves big fella don't be a pussy We're gonna have to put this on hold for a week or so, I'm going on holiday. SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted November 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 Hello, I'm a pigeon shooter (shotgun) normally but with the shortage of pigeons at the moment have resorted to attempt to clear the garden of tree rats with an airgun. So bought a new .22 12lb/ft spring gun and after satisfying myself that I could group shots OK set about the squirrels. With head shots at about 15-20 yards no problem. They normally go down stone dead or run about 5 yards then drop dead. However, I also had an old cage trap so have been catching them in there. The problem is that when dispatching them with the same gun at point blank range I don't always get a clean kill. I think hitting them in the top of the head but it takes a couple of shot to kill them. Is it the fact that that part of the head is tough or is the gun less effective at close range. Can't understand why it would be the latter but perhaps somebody can shed light on it. Cheers Andrew What Air-rifle have you got What pellets are you using :( You shouldn't have any problems at point blank range. What part of the head are you shooting?? If you go for the top it will be a clean kill. One thing that you must also think about is when caught in a trap and you approach to dispatch it, it will be very alert and full of adrenaline, so when you shoot it, the flight reflex come's into play. Even though it is dead the nerves go into overdrive. Next time pop a pellet in backwards so the skirt is in first, this will give you a clean kill As for stretching their necks No way (pin, your either a brave man or NUTS :o ) Kip, Its a brand new .22 Cometa and the pellets are RWS Super-H-Point (Field Line). When they are in the cage I aim for the top of the head (the forehead if a squirel has one!) although they are moving around quite a bit so it might not hit it square on. I thought it was maybe that this is a particularly hard but of the skull but I think it is the adrenaline as you mention. I hit one in my garden today at about 15 yards fair and square on the top of the head and, apart from a few twitches, was stone dead. Far more satisfying that way. Almost have a pang of guilt when I dispatch one in a cage. :yp: Now I've shot more squirels with my air rifle in the past week than I have pigeons with my shotgun in the past three months. AVB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kipper Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 I had the same problem with a mixie rabbit last weekend, first shot close range,it was still hopping about, 2nd shot very close range still kicking and strugaling. 3rd shot point blank range dead apart from nerves twitching. i hate to see rabbits with mixie what a horible way to suffer and aventually die. Pin I would love to see you wring a squirels neck, :lol: I have seen the mess they make of dogs faces :o rather you than me mate. kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conygree Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 check your scope at close range, it could be shooting 2" high at 10', I drop the scope to min say x3.5 to check the close range offset. The reason for not dieing could be shots in the lower jaw? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airssassin Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 I find that the best place to shoot them is the back of their head between their ears. Failing that, one in the spine finishes them instantly (needs to be accurate). Just don't get close enough for it to go up your trouser leg! Take cycle clips and a lead pipe to be on the safe side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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