tougher firearms regulations

[Dekers]

and how come BASC, CPSA and NRA are on the council of BSSC is its all target related, seems to be a conglomeration of all shooting organisations from what I can see

 

Yeah, that's what they seem to be about, a council of loads of shooting organisations. I'm just concerned that they hardly seem to be putting themselves forward, what do they actually do if BASC usually lead the media onslaught?

 

Perhaps the subject of another thread, maybe going to off topic!

[CharlieT]

As the BSSC represents the 12 major players, it would make sense for the ACPO to deal with the one organization that represents the voice of the 12.

 

I quote from their website:

 

The British Shooting Sports Council is an umbrella body which brings together Britain’s twelve major shooting associations to achieve consensus positions on political and legislative issues affecting the shooting sports. It is a non-profit making organisation financed by its member associations’ subscriptions.

The Council’s object is to promote and safeguard the lawful possession and use of firearms and air weapons for sporting and recreational purposes in the United Kingdom amongst all sections of society.

[ROBLATCH]

Fair enough,but does that mean WE have to be in favour?

The licensing procedures were and are already in place(and have been since before Dunblane,and indeed Hungerford) to either respond to,or act on information received,to prevent what happened at Durham,from happening.The Police,for reasons best known to them,chose not to act or respond to their own findings!!!!!!(sound familiar?)And now they are mooting more stringent proposals to try and distract from their shortcomings.

Is it me?

no we dont have to be in favour of any changes to the gun laws,however living in county durham ( myself included ) i think the basis of this is more the north east that takes the brunt.maybe there was an error on durham police behalf but why the legitimate licsence holders should suffer is beyond me,

[Whitebridges]

wonder which the other regions are that are trailing these "new guidelines". To be fair someone should be for the chop up there in Durham, its been an on going joke with arms dealing and giving the guns back to this guy without a court battle. Hopefully May will see through their incompetence and dismiss any new stuff, all the rules were there to stop this they just failed to follow them. Why do people have to loose their lives because of these fools? if something like this happened in industry the directors and managers would most likely find themselves fighting manslaughter charges

 

I like your thinking Kent. So the buffoon who did all the killing shouldn't have had guns in the first place.The Police guffed up.

So we end up with loads of very clever people and **** coverers looking at the bigger picture and suggesting smart **** reforms and rule changes for the benefit of the public.Absolutely brilliant isn't it; the tax payer swallowing more rubbish when a perfectly managable system has not been followed by highly paid professionals who had a duty to do so.

[Dekers]

As the BSSC represents the 12 major players, it would make sense for the ACPO to deal with the one organization that represents the voice of the 12.

 

I quote from their website:

 

The British Shooting Sports Council is an umbrella body which brings together Britain’s twelve major shooting associations to achieve consensus positions on political and legislative issues affecting the shooting sports. It is a non-profit making organisation financed by its member associations’ subscriptions.

The Council’s object is to promote and safeguard the lawful possession and use of firearms and air weapons for sporting and recreational purposes in the United Kingdom amongst all sections of society.

 

On the face of it Charlie it seems a good idea, as I have said though, my concern is WHERE ARE THEY?

 

Any issue that crops up it is BASC or Mike Yardl*y on the media, what do they actually do, rather than are meant to do, when can you last remember any input on any issue from them?

[wymberley]

Don't know if it's just me, but it seems that we're not seeing David BASC so often now.

 

However, no doubt he'll pick up on this or someone will draw his attention to it and he'll be able to give us chapter and verse on this one.

[CharlieT]

On the face of it Charlie it seems a good idea, as I have said though, my concern is WHERE ARE THEY?

 

Any issue that crops up it is BASC or Mike Yardl*y on the media, what do they actually do, rather than are meant to do, when can you last remember any input on any issue from them?

I must say that although I have heard of them I know very little and like you I wondered where they featured in "media" representation or call it what you will.

 

Having done a brief search on google I found several of their quarterly reports which give an insight into what they do.

It seems to me that their remit is not media related or to be the public face of shooters, rather, it is to work behind the scenes lobying the decision makers such as the police, Home office and MP's. They are also represented on the FELWG Practitioners Group which reccomends and puts forward the knitty gritty to the ACPO FELWG for consideration.

 

There are also copies, on the www, of letters written by the BSSC to the Home Office which demonstrate how they (BSSC) are in constant dialogue with the Home Office department responsible for firearms legislation.

Edited April 10, 2013 by CharlieT

[Dekers]

I must say that although I have heard of them I know very little and like you I wondered where they featured in "media" representation or call it what you will.

 

Having done a brief search on google I found several of their quarterly reports which give an insight into what they do.

It seems to me that their remit is not media related or to be the public face of shooters, rather, it is to work behind the scenes lobying the decision makers such as the police, Home office and MP's. They are also represented on the FELWG Practitioners Group which reccomends and puts forward the knitty gritty to the ACPO FELWG for consideration.

 

There are also copies, on the www, of letters written by the BSSC to the Home Office which demonstrate how they (BSSC) are in constant dialogue with the Home Office department responsible for firearms legislation.

 

[Steppenwolf]

I have managed to find Andy Marsh's email:

chief.constable@hampshire.pnn.police.uk

[matone]

Fair enough,but does that mean WE have to be in favour?

The licensing procedures were and are already in place(and have been since before Dunblane,and indeed Hungerford) to either respond to,or act on information received,to prevent what happened at Durham,from happening.The Police,for reasons best known to them,chose not to act or respond to their own findings!!!!!!(sound familiar?)And now they are mooting more stringent proposals to try and distract from their shortcomings.

Is it me?

Its not you ! Its them .