MG6065 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 I've finally got my **** into gear and I'm going to apply for a 222 for foxing. I've currently got a 22lr and a free slot for a 17hmr. I feel all the rabbiting I do is covered with the 22lr so don't really need a hmr. My hmr is conditioned for fox but I'd rather have a rifle that enables me , with lots of practice take foxes at 200 yards.. How do I go about this? What forms do I fill in and what shall I say? Also what ammo allowance should I ask for? I'm not going to be shooting loads of rounds. All my land is cleared up to all calibres so all that's sorted. Thanks alot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deputy dog Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 Its the same form just tick in the variation box on the top. Fill in the appropriate parts as normal and put fox control where they say what reason and the land where its to used. As for ammo then i would ask for buy 100 an hold 200 as a reasonable amount. If you put more then they will most likely knock it down to that like they did with me when i applied for my .243. Got buy 100 and hold 160 as end result. Hope this helps DD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornfree Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 And be prepared for a long wait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olliesims Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 My ammunition allowance on both .223 and .243 is buy 200 hold 260, I would go with that personally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregthegreat Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 Personally I'd suggest .223 but that's another thread in itself! You don't need to complete any reference forms for starters. Get your hands on a Firearms Certificate application form from your local Police station, or here: http://www.basc.org.uk/download.cfm/docid/302AE27C-C212-4AE7-9B6A83373E015186 Advice/guidance also on the BASC website here: http://www.basc.org.uk/en/departments/firearms/certificate-forms-and-fees.cfm Ammo quantity is up to you and usually a chat with your local firearms liason officer should provide the answer. Don't loose the slot for .17HMR now you've got it, you never know, you might want one for a specific reason in the future. Greg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 For use put down fox and AOLQ. Police C/F ammo guidelines suggest buy 200 - hold 250, so I would go with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted April 12, 2013 Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 A 1 for 1 is free, if you want to add extra slots it will cost. Bear in mind there is NO guarantee either, just because you have (for example) a HMR, a Variation for a .222 isn't a gimme, you will still need to justify it and possibly face another interview! I'd go with Charlie below as well! For use put down fox and AOLQ. Police C/F ammo guidelines suggest buy 200 - hold 250, so I would go with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted April 12, 2013 Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 There is no reason why you should not do a 1 for 1 - Changing your 17HMR for a .222 for foxing. However as Dekers has just said there is no guarantees, it is down to your FEO, and even then your FEO might want to put a "Mentoring" or "Accompanied" condition on you if you have no previous experience with centre fires! As for ammunition I can hold 300 and buy 250 - But again that is down to your Firearms Office! It would not be unreasonable to ask for Buy 200 and Hold 250! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted April 12, 2013 Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 (edited) And be prepared for a long wait Mine took 7 days including Good Friday, Sunday and Easter Monday Edited April 12, 2013 by shaun4860 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregthegreat Posted April 12, 2013 Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 Mine took 7 days including Good Friday, Sunday and Easter Monday Yeah, 7 days for me too. It depends on your Constabulary. If you call them you can usually get it hurried up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbiter Posted April 12, 2013 Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 my mate has just had his through the post,4 days,asked for .243,well done northumbria.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deputy dog Posted April 12, 2013 Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 My FEO phoned today and said my variation should be back next week and opened up on all calibers as well. Although well pleased with that, it's only taken the best part of 4 months for them to get to this stage. Had my SGC renewal through the other week and it had the wrong gun on it. How they managed that **** knows, but I had to phone them straight away and fair play within two days a new ticket was there on the mat all present and correct. DD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redgum Posted April 12, 2013 Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 Be interesting how long my one for one variation for a moderator change takes with Gloucestershire force, been a week so far. When I swapped a fac air rifle slot for my first 243 I was told by my FEO that I would have to pay again as the calibre differance was to big a jump, the things they come out with. BASC told me to ignore this advice and go ahead with the variation, of course, nowt was said. I think your reasoning for wanting a 222 is extremely sensible and as long as land is ok ( unless of course you have an open license). I would say, '' hmr is not the ideal choice for a foxing rifle', but it would just stir to much emotion amongst you lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornfree Posted April 12, 2013 Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 Mine took 7 days including Good Friday, Sunday and Easter Monday Mine took 6 months and 4 days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted April 12, 2013 Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 Mine took 6 months and 4 days The legal guy that writes in Sporting Gun says you should get in touch with your Chief Constable/Commissioner type person as it reflects badly on them, and they might not realise it's taking that long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redgum Posted April 12, 2013 Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 The legal guy that writes in Sporting Gun says you should get in touch with your Chief Constable/Commissioner type person as it reflects badly on them, and they might not realise it's taking that long I think I read the same article and the general feeling is that not enough people complain as worried of putting license at some kind of risk. My license is in for renewal in August, believe me, if its not back before the old one expires I will need a book of stamps to send all the letters out, chief of police, MP etc.( hope I'm not tempting fate with me one for one thats in at the moment.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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