Davidbj123 Posted April 21, 2013 Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 Just had a look at these on guntrader wondering if these would be any good as a starter gun? I will be shooting clays but later on in the year hopefully be out on game shoots! Help and advice would be greatful, don't really know much about the different types of guns yet see need a hand! http://www.guntrader.co.uk/3rdParty/TheCountryStore/Detail.php?NewGunID=130315124015001 http://www.guntrader.co.uk/Guns-For-Sale/Winchester_Shotgun_Diamond-Grade_For-Sale_130308152433001 http://www.guntrader.co.uk/Guns-For-Sale/Rizzini-E_Shotgun_For-Sale_130416162039998 http://www.guntrader.co.uk/3rdParty/TheCountryStore/Detail.php?NewGunID=121124145703001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsdad Posted April 21, 2013 Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 Any of those would be fine - fit is the most important thing. If you are going second hand then get in contact with Wabbitbosher off here - he will be a lot cheaper than a gun shop and always has some really nice guns. He is in Kettering but the travel will be worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ghost Posted April 21, 2013 Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 If you PM Wabbitbosher (Firearms dealer Kettering) and tell him what you want he will get you a gun you will be very pleased with. At those prices above he will get you a gun you will keep forever and can use for whatever you want it for. Top Bloke and loads on here will only buy from him, that includes myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidbj123 Posted April 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 Oh brilliant ok I will give him a pm cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pg123 Posted April 21, 2013 Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 (edited) The Winchester is full/full on the chokes so not the best for beginner. The Miroku has a shortish stock and may not fit to well if you are a tall bloke. Edited April 21, 2013 by pg123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted April 21, 2013 Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 If I HAD to have one of the four it would be the Miroku-the rest are far from ideal.As a starter gun you may find that versatilioty is the name of the game so look for a multi choke sporter with a decent name on it-this keeps the resale price (when you come to sell/px) higher.A single trigger ejector is also desirable and theres plenty to choose from if you shop around.If money is an issue look for a Browning Medalist-price will be a little higher than equivalent guns but so will the residual value.Try as many guns as you can for fit-Brownings fit some people like a glove yet others feel like they are swinging a wobbly fence post.Dont be tempted to buy the first thing that comes along or just because its local-you need to be able to travel for the best buys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabarm gamma boy Posted April 21, 2013 Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 The miroku 6000 is the most ideal gun there id say! Get a sporter they do everything game or clays, so will a game gun but there lighter so kick more, if i were you id keep away from trap guns! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidbj123 Posted April 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 Yeah ok I will have to look about! Cheers for your help!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted April 21, 2013 Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 All decent enough guns , the winchester is a trap model though so not ideally as suited to game as say a sporter At the price of the Miroku , you are getting close to new Lanber or Bettinsoli money, both worth a look . Also some of those guns only have 2 3/4 inch chambers , if your future shooting is going to include things like geese then a 3 inch chamber would be better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted April 21, 2013 Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 Also some of those guns only have 2 3/4 inch chambers , if your future shooting is going to include things like geese then a 3 inch chamber would be better Not an issue for clays or game, can be for wild fowling where steel proof is also a benefit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted April 21, 2013 Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 I can speak for the AYA Yeoman O/U AND the Rizzini E. The AYA is built as good as good.as any beretta very well built bit of kit and a good weight too. I loved mine! Looked after after it should last a lifetime. Rizzini E. While it is a very nice gun to handle and shoot it has a few afflictions. I came across was The top lever wears out leading to a misfire. Also the firing pins for wear, burring, etc. They are extremely easy to work on though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidbj123 Posted April 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 I can speak for the AYA Yeoman O/U AND the Rizzini E. The AYA is built as good as good.as any beretta very well built bit of kit and a good weight too. I loved mine! Looked after after it should last a lifetime. Rizzini E. While it is a very nice gun to handle and shoot it has a few afflictions. I came across was The top lever wears out leading to a misfire. Also the firing pins for wear, burring, etc. They are extremely easy to work on though. Thanks for your advice mate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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