TaxiDriver Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 Can anyone tell me how I find out what modern tacho requirements are ? Particularly in relation to Vehicle breakdown-recovery work, I believe (maybe incorrectly) that there's some degree of exemption with 100km of base :unsure: Looks like I've maybe gone and got meself a job, doing night controlling for 3 nights on/3 nights off and some driving work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 Pretty sure reccers are exempt full stop. The road haulage website might be a good place to look.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshLamb Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 Within 60 miles of your base, tacho rules don't apply I used to work on wreckers! It's a good job!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted May 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 I used to drive HGV1 upto 44tonne but haven't done for about 13 - 14years now, mainly container haulage, and curtainsiders / tilts, So this is a bit daunting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 I used to drive HGV1 upto 44tonne but haven't done for about 13 - 14years now, mainly container haulage, and curtainsiders / tilts, So this is a bit daunting Not to sure if you will need the new driver CPC either, so that's something else you will need to check out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samyw Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 Not to sure if you will need the new driver CPC either, so that's something else you will need to check out... Cpc only comes into force next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPV4 Posted May 22, 2013 Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 Cpc only comes into force next year That's right, you will have to have completed 37 hours of CPC training by October 2014 to continue to use you LGV license as you are now, unless your you are exempt. I would say its time to find out sooner rather than later, as with everything like this there are some very grey areas regarding exemptions. I have already started my CPC, the worrying thing is you can attend the same course 5 times and still qualify!! So you could attend 5 sessions of first aid, or manual handling, or driver hours etc! So it appears to me it's another money making scheme and nothing to do with safety and competence to drive an LGV. What would be much better would be a practical assessment every 3 to 5 years with a driving instructor, as the fire service do for their emergency fire appliance drivers. I do two written exams one on the Highway Code, then one on "road craft" and then a days driving with and instructor in an appliance, with a blue light run in traffic thrown in every 3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livefast123 Posted May 22, 2013 Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 (edited) Specialised breakdown vehicles are exempt from tacho regulations for 100km or 62 miles radius from their base but be mindful of the fact that if you know you are going outside the 100km then the whole journey will need to be "in scope". Also if you drive a vehicle that is subject to operator licencing for more than 4 hours a day or outside of 50km radius of your base then you will be subject to GB domestic drivers hours and will be required to keep a record. Get yourself here - http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/Rules%20on%20Drivers%20Hours%20and%20Tachographs%20-%20Goods%20Vehicles%20in%20GB%20and%20Europe.pdf . It's very useful and will explain everthing, I often refer unsure drivers to it. TBH they should rip up the legislation and make it simpler. Edited May 22, 2013 by Livefast123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted May 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 (edited) Thanks for your input ladies and gents. Livefast123 - thanks that was what I found on the VOSA site This started out as going to be a bit of casual vehicle delivery work, now it's looking like a whole lot more hassle, having to learn the business in a whole lot more depth in order to become the night controller and be able to accept breakdown/recovery jobs from the likes of motoring organisations, insurance co's and allocate to a fleet of drivers. The CPC thing has been mentioned aswell by the Recovery Firm. Edited May 22, 2013 by TaxiDriver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted May 22, 2013 Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 Piece of cake really but sounds interesting as a job, bit of a shame its nights but thats the way it goes. Not that far off my line of work and the controlling bit you do get your head round pretty fast, if you have been out and driven you are one step ahead of most. Just don't employ too many ex taxi drivers and you will be fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samyw Posted May 22, 2013 Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 I've got one more session of cpc to do then complete its defiantly another money maker and boreing at that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetter Posted May 22, 2013 Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 2 more Drivers CPC courses to do. To be honest its the biggest con going, our firm are doing it in house but you can tell they are struggling to fill the content. I have done some boring courses over my career but the drivers CPC was just mind numbing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samyw Posted May 22, 2013 Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 Ha ha you are right mate it is ours is in house to just a waste of time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoot and be safe Posted May 22, 2013 Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 The cpc "waste of time and money" thing, you can't fail even if you fall asleep during it. You only have to turn up, sit through it and collect your certificate on your way through the door. Total waste of time and money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepper&Bess Posted May 23, 2013 Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 Just finished mine waste of time and money. I will bet my bottom doller that the drivers from over the water do not have there,s just come over drive on our road take our work and take the **** out of us brit,s again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexcernui Posted May 23, 2013 Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 re tacho, it registers other work as cross hammers, so it goes in at start of shift and out at the end. as far as i know apart from recovery there are no exceptions. cpc is a total waste of time and money, lets see if all the eastern european drivers will have them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livefast123 Posted May 23, 2013 Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 There are loads of exemptions to EU drivers hours and then the domestic regulations add more.......total headache!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plank06 Posted May 24, 2013 Report Share Posted May 24, 2013 I work in the road surfacing industry and quite a few different drivers Are exempt from driving hours. A lot of road sweepers are, and some of the lorrys that work for planing companies too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted May 24, 2013 Report Share Posted May 24, 2013 (edited) I think if your primary job is something other than driving, then your are exempt?? Like a scaffolder, only needs to drive his lorry to and from site, he scaffolds for the rest of the day ?? Edited May 24, 2013 by chrispti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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